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Contour
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Posted: 07 January 2017 at 9:53am |
Has this topic been moved? I cannot find it anymore?
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nickyburnell
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It's everything, not everythink!
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toastyghost
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I would imagine forum moderators chose to stick to their usual policy of not discussing or sharing plans for in production boxes.
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hi walt.
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Contour
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Still wondering if that sketchup file was fully correct, but it seemed to match all details as can be seen in the video of the inside. Still bit strange design, the rearchamber is vented twice, ports of different length, normally this does not work an ports behave as 1.
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Aman Gebru
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It looked correct to me. So will match what you saw in the Laparoscopic surgical dissection video.
Also correct is that the mean summation of ports becomes the turning frequency. You can have a box with 2 x 100mm ports that are 300mm long with 3 x 180mm ports that are 500mm long that will all combine to a single common tuning frequency of say 32Hz. |
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Thanks for your reply,
So the horns are tuned to cover a certain range, which requires a certain horn length. By porting the rearchamber in these horns they start to act as a port, but with wrong tuning, the additional ports in the rearchamber correct this tuning. Is this how you think it works? Best regards, Walt |
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It could also be by porting the rearchamber in the horn, the rearchamber fictively looks larger to the woofers, therefore the front ports can be way shorter than normally expected for the low tuning. Offering the option for large port area eliminating port losses for maximum effiency.
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Aman Gebru
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Nice to see you here again Walt.
If there are a number of ports that vent from a single rear chamber then their combined area becomes the new total area for the port. If the ports are of different lengths, you take the average of the mean distances to make the new single port length. You now have an area and a single length. Of course things are not so simple as multiple ports emanating from different places will reduce the total port volume and require additional length for the same tuning frequency as a single port. Ports that exit into larger ducts known as horns do not effect their operation as much as you would think. It is after all a larger space with different conscripts. |
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You can only really see how all this works by an impedance test of the final design.
There is very little software that can simulate what's going on. Maybe Comsol is one such software. Other that than you have to build with multiple ports of different areas and lengths and deduce the tuning frequency from the impedance plot until you arrive at your preference. |
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The horns which are in front of the drivers have the required throat dimension, length, expansion and mouth size required to fulfil their goal. The ports which are there to introduce a new single lower tuning frequency to aide the horns output require the maximum area possible. The frontal area of the enclosure is already "busy" so any alternative paths for venting have to take place to get an even percentage of horn area vs port area. The horns are still horns, that just so happen to have a lower frequency injected into them. They don't alter the injected lower frequency as it's outside of their operational range. It's just a corridor to the vent. Edited by Aman Gebru - 07 January 2017 at 2:05pm |
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So the horn acts as a tapered port at these low frequencies? And together with the standard ports create one single tuning frequency?
Edited by Contour - 07 January 2017 at 2:11pm |
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