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I suppose they do throw in better components than the standard Lab copies though, therefore increasing reliability.

Anyhow, I've seen a copy with a Lab Gruppen badge today. Quite a shame, can't even see the point of that either...
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RCF have always used OEMS for their PA amps.
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Some of the most important differences remain hidden until you do not use them in real world!

The INUKE completely drops power as soon as the AC drops just a little = useless in professional application
The INUKE has NO real output feedback, the frequency plot depends on the load behavior = useless in professional application
The INUKE has badly designed "cheap" power supply, creates harmonics and current spikes on the mains (huge problem if you have several of those..) = useless in professional application

The cooling structure of the INUKE is not suitable to work in non-controlled "dirty " environment, without the risk of quick failure.

I have been informed several even more damning technical details but most of you would likely not understand therefore I will not share those.

The INUKE is NOT a professional amplifier but could be good for a cheap household amplifier.
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Such load dependent frequency response of the INUKE could be very ugly on vocals, or anywhere in the upper range..
Also produces different sound character on each type of the speakers.. which is very difficult to handle.
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the SAE amps sound fine to my ears, better than a Lab on low end and despite claims they have appalling PFC I am not seeing any issues when I clipped mine intro a D-load for shits and giggles....
 
 
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Originally posted by shagnasty shagnasty wrote:

the SAE amps sound fine to my ears, better than a Lab on low end and despite claims they have appalling PFC I am not seeing any issues when I clipped mine intro a D-load for shits and giggles....
 
 


Put 12 of them to a remote mains line and you will see the "problems"

For example the airbags or ABS are totally useless parts of your car,
until you do not need them..


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Originally posted by U.Viktor U.Viktor wrote:

Originally posted by shagnasty shagnasty wrote:

the SAE amps sound fine to my ears, better than a Lab on low end and despite claims they have appalling PFC I am not seeing any issues when I clipped mine intro a D-load for shits and giggles....
 
 


Put 12 of them to a remote mains line and you will see the "problems"

For example the airbags or ABS are totally useless parts of your car,
until you do not need them..
 
The point is *I* won't, I'd use the proper gear to give me a stiff enough main, if you throw 12 10Kw power amps on a bit 25mm2 of course all hell will break loose...
 
As for ABS, I have mine turned off, I can out-drive it and proved so many times on a skid pan....


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^ carplans.com LOL
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Originally posted by studio45 studio45 wrote:

For my 2p worth, there's a local sound here that use an iNuke 6000 on bass, driving four Rhino scoops with PD1850 inside - they do all the things you're not supposed to do like pushing up the 20 and 31Hz EQ sliders, running without a limiter, ragging it into clip at least once every tune, accidentally running it up into a shorted cable now and then - and they've been (ab)using it for nearly 18 months now and it ain't broken yet! Hasn't even gone into protect mode as far as I know :) And, seems to go much louder than the Crest 8001 they were using previously.....


they better on bass duty but have their limits been usin my inuke6000dsp for quite a while now but my heavy weight has better tone and more spl Smile
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Originally posted by U.Viktor U.Viktor wrote:

Such load dependent frequency response of the INUKE could be very ugly on vocals, or anywhere in the upper range..
Also produces different sound character on each type of the speakers.. which is very difficult to handle.



already said before they are harsh sounding on mids an tops Smile
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TBH, back on topic, the Powersoft maybe better value than the iNuke, but when the iNuke is so much cheaper the comment of unfair comparison applies, you will never get a front wheel drive car to handle or go fast, but some people can't afford RWD.
 
I ran a club on EP2500s, a lot of them, they were replaced with SR 707s and may I say held their value very well, they cost £200+vat each and all sold for £130 plus, the SR were in different league sound wise but I bought the SR of JH as he shifted them out and the EP were probably better value than the SR stuff (707 was £1K in '94) the iNuke kit isn't going to head up against Powersoft/MC2/FFA maybe even SAE which is nearer it's price point, but for $500 it makes better frequency response, PFC, Power, SPL and bhp/tonne than $500 worth of the above!!!!!
 
I deliberately left PKN out of that list as I haven't used one, I don't know of any Pro Audio companies that are using them and they have no UK demo stock, so to me I can't comment on a complete un-known....
 
 
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PKN are somewhat closer to Powersoft and similar brands for the price though, aren't they?

Anyhow, Marjan uses these and they also have quite a good reputation here on the forums.

Edited by Darkstar - 08 September 2015 at 9:15pm
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