PKN evaluation results

levyte357 wrote: Asked a simple question, got response tinged with sarcasm+inuendo, with suggestion people played sub with 32db gain below 50hz & and put distorted signal thru the amp. And people jump on me... How very amusing... Not. PauliePaulie wrote: No-one really uses Camco and Labs in the roots world and they don't really get slated very often - why target PKN Maybe because LabG & Camco representatives are not here spouting fairy tales about amplifier output powers ? <-- is Chris now a PKN dealer/rep? I'm sure that there is, however, a guy on here with a 'rootsy' and 'scoopy' background who sells them.... Has been said on here many times before, nothing special about the amps Roots dudes rate, they just want amps that do what they say on the tin. PauliePaul wrote: The roots market is an area most manufacturers have little or no time for (there are exceptions, I know!), why produce an amp targeted at them that will do this, that and the other.... and sell say 30 per year; on the other hand they could produce an amp that is good, it will do a bit of this, a bit of that and part of the other... and sell 300+ per year. Crest 9001 wasn't targeted at Roots people, neither was MA5000VZ, MA3600, Lab FP14000, FFA10, Inf8MK2, QSC PL9.0, QSC PL6.0, CREST CA18, Powersoft K10. But guess what, they can pretty much drive either 4 ohms/2 ohm stereo, with HPF=35-45hz, without suffering apparent heart attack. Unlike "some amps", so Roots/Reggae dudes are buying these worldwide. <--- no, but none of those amps were field tested on a sound system before production commenced were they? Can't imagine the guys at Elkart saying "hold on, before we put our new amp (that we've spent $2 million+ to R&D) into production we'll send one to Hackney for testing...." Just so happens that they do the job they are asked to do by roots dudes, so it's a  for them, some amps don't, but it doesn't make the manufacturer a 'liar'  or the amps crap now does it? Which is the point I was trying to make. If what you're saying is, why make amplifiers that can drive speaker loads published in specifications, for the inconvenient few, no problem. <--- this... what I was trying to get at is that published specs are obtained from controlled conditions, manufacturers expect the amps to be driven hard, but in decent conditions ie forced air cooling, decent power, decent cabling, realistic loading etc etc, ie by P.A. companies with large inventories and resources.      Anyway as a side point, what happened to the days of custom amps? Used to love seeing big boxes in racks with no labelling and piles of XLR's - actually owned a few of them, right through to the pretty pretty Linx amplifiers with masses of flashing LED's!! Why has everyone gone 'commercial'?? Cost? Realiability? Weight?

Asked a simple question, got response tinged with sarcasm+inuendo, with suggestion people played sub with 32db gain below 50hz & and put distorted signal thru the amp. And people jump on me... How very amusing... Not.

PauliePaulie wrote: No-one really uses Camco and Labs in the roots world and they don't really get slated very often - why target PKN

Maybe because LabG & Camco representatives are not here spouting fairy tales about amplifier output powers ?

Has been said on here many times before, nothing special about the amps Roots dudes rate, they just want amps that do what they say on the tin.

PauliePaul wrote: The roots market is an area most manufacturers have little or no time for (there are exceptions, I know!), why produce an amp targeted at them that will do this, that and the other.... and sell say 30 per year; on the other hand they could produce an amp that is good, it will do a bit of this, a bit of that and part of the other... and sell 300+ per year.

Crest 9001 wasn't targeted at Roots people, neither was MA5000VZ, MA3600, Lab FP14000, FFA10, Inf8MK2, QSC PL9.0, QSC PL6.0, CREST CA18, Powersoft K10. But guess what, they can pretty much drive either 4 ohms/2 ohm stereo, with HPF=35-45hz, without suffering apparent heart attack. Unlike "some amps", so Roots/Reggae dudes are buying these worldwide.

If what you're saying is, why make amplifiers that can drive speaker loads published in specifications, for the inconvenient few, no problem.


Edited by levyte357 - 13 June 2012 at 8:39pm

levyte357 wrote: Peter Papp [PKN wrote: However I have amplified standard music, did not turn +32dB < 50Hz on the EQ and do not have distorted low frequency sample tones :-))) What is your definition of standard/non standard music?

Lev, you should stop taking a crap on the PKN, ok? They dont deserve what you giving to them.

Peter Papp [PKN wrote: However I have amplified standard music, did not turn +32dB < 50Hz on the EQ and do not have distorted low frequency sample tones :-)))

Do you know anyone who does that ?

What is your definition of standard/non standard music?

EDIT:I'll be sure to pass your comments onto Ren/TweeterBox who where operating the test rigs where the PKN was "compared" to the "superior" Inf8 V2, to see if they had set boost +32db < 50hz, and if they were playing distorted low frequency tones.




Edited by levyte357 - 13 June 2012 at 3:06pm

Nitz V1505 wrote: Sorry for the double post. Dumb smart phone posting before I had finished!!!! Peter can the 6000 go lower than 2.66ohms? Thanks for the info CSG. Im just after a monster amp that can power 4 G subs or 8 scoops which sound as good as my heavies without breaking the bank.

Here the optimal loading range of XE/XD6000 are clearly visible: