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    Posted: 08 February 2012 at 9:54pm
What is it!?

Google patent search yields no joy. Is it some sort of phase plug, or just a specific horn design?
Despite having mixed on them many times, I've never actually looked inside a TSW-718 and was wondering what the differences were between them and the F218 mk1
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote knet94 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 February 2012 at 10:24pm
the TurboBass™
device, a unique patented design which
employs a high-velocity partial horn loading
technique, giving precise cone control at
high power levels.

That's all I could find.
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Probably just a trade mark for the band pass horn loading technique. The newer F1 bins I assume, are an evolution of the same principle.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Calculus Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 February 2012 at 2:18am
Originally posted by duck1 duck1 wrote:

Probably just a trade mark for the band pass horn loading technique. The newer F1 bins I assume, are an evolution of the same principle.

this.
Always a compromise, You can't have everything...

Where would you put it all.
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http://www.wikipatents.com/GB-Patent-1598310/bass-sound-projection-system

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote cyte Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 February 2012 at 2:31pm
Ah I read that one. I suppose trademarks are separate to patents aren't they?
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well then i don't understand your question.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote cyte Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 February 2012 at 4:15pm
I mean I read the patent without realising it was the 'Turbo Bass Device'. The name is a trademark, the idea is the patent
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote madboffin Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14 February 2012 at 8:34pm
 
Originally posted by duck1 duck1 wrote:

Probably just a trade mark for the band pass horn loading technique. The newer F1 bins I assume, are an evolution of the same principle.


Originally posted by Calculus Calculus wrote:


this.


+1

It was just a marketing name for a clever, but very simple, design.


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Taterworks Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 February 2012 at 3:40am
I've always thought the Turbo Bass Device was the same thing as what we now call a "bandpass horn". There's usually a large compression/decoupling chamber and a short, non-ideal horn flare that can have some highly damped helmholtz resonance action (in the narrow section of the horn where the air mass is most free to vibrate like the air mass in a reflex port) happening at the same time. Essentially it is a different embodiment of a horn, and I don't see how the patent would be enforceable, at least in the United States (unless Turbosound - that is, Proel - has lots and lots of money to work the system.)
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Acording to John Newsome, who I asked about the TSW 721 and the F218 at Plasa one year, the original 2x18 for the Floodlight system was the same shape/size/design as the F218. However this was physicaly narrower than the Flood top box, and the man at Turbo wanted it to be the same size. They re-designed it, and made the box bigger and called it the TSW 721. Thats what I was told anyway.
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Originally posted by 100 Volt-line 100 Volt-line wrote:

Acording to John Newsome, who I asked about the TSW 721 and the F218 at Plasa one year, the original 2x18 for the Floodlight system was the same shape/size/design as the F218. However this was physicaly narrower than the Flood top box, and the man at Turbo wanted it to be the same size. They re-designed it, and made the box bigger and called it the TSW 721. Thats what I was told anyway.


The TSW 718 is a 2x18
The F218 is a 2x18

The TSW721 is a 1x21

I think you missunderstood John (Newsham)


In answer to the OP the "Turbo Bass Device" is a loading technique-but fundamentaly its marketing spin..
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