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djeddie 
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 Topic: Turbosound; The relicsPosted: 05 October 2011 at 6:10pm |
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 Legendary quote there Sir! |
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E=mc² ±3dB
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shagnasty
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Posted: 05 October 2011 at 5:56pm |
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I don't have issue with flown PA, in general I can get a better sound by hanging Mid-Hi boxes than ground stack as it gives more freedom to "point" them acurately..
My issue is with systems that can't produce full range in either degrees of coverage, dBs or Hertz. Took the Ex to see Whitesanke/Def Leppard @ the SECC, the sound was nothing sort of spot on, over 95% of teh arena (and we did walk around to check) from memory it was a Scan gig with d&B line array, but they did have 7 hangs of it (yep 3 aside and a centre "downfill") all under control, all time aligned and all sounding like a PA, I agree this is the exception, most gigs like that have 4 (or god forbid 2) hangs of something designed to throw 200m with a beam angle of single FlashLight box and sound like R2D2 raping a Plastation 2... Obviously 200 TMS-3 with some FlashLight and pile of 124s and 121s would have been better as they would have been blue and that is important!!!  |
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colint
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Posted: 05 October 2011 at 4:44pm |
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No matter what you put into your system if your speakers are shite it'll sound shite! Simple init?
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burningbush
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Posted: 05 October 2011 at 3:29pm |
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Big speakers = Big sound
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Nachural
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Posted: 05 October 2011 at 11:53am |
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The main thing line array has going for it is convenience. It’s quick and easy to fly and doesn’t take up too much space. It has it’s uses without doubt but put it up against some of those older rigs and it may come as a surprise to anyone not familiar with how well they used to perform. Guess it’s all horses for courses and newer technology does bring many benefits but I can’t help feeling that in many ways the magic that these 70’s and 80’s rigs brought to concert has been lost. |
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it's all just cardboard and magnets really
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jbl_man
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Posted: 05 October 2011 at 11:02am |
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I absolutely agree John,35 years on,and some of these big modern systems sound appalling,im not just looking through rose tinted glasses and saying"oh the good old days were better ",they genuinely were!....give me a big heavy ground stacked rig (with Gauss,ATC and JBL drivers inside) over this flown nonsense any day.
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Robbo
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I just wish that all of the young whippersnappers on here had winessed those type of 70s and 80s touring systems to fully realise how good concert sound was back then as I am now totally p-ssed off with listening to line array systems that either do not work or sound like an i-pod on steroids.
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Nachural
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Posted: 05 October 2011 at 10:14am |
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Big, heavy but bloody efficient. The sheer volume of air that those systems moved was always impressive. |
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Posted: 04 October 2011 at 9:49am |
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The sight of all those cabs makes me wonder if the youngsters (!!) of today realise how powerful old-school PAs were. The Floodlights/Flashlights/TSM3s were each as loud as most modern line array (sic) units but with a much narrower dispersion pattern so think what several dozen of them were capable of. I can't remember if it was Robbo or JBL-Man who commented on the same thing a while back - both the systems in the last two photos look loud enough to shake your fillings loose!
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djeddie
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Posted: 03 October 2011 at 8:37pm |
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That's what the 'Maiden techs use instead of headphones. |
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colint
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Posted: 03 October 2011 at 8:23pm |
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Bit small for Iron Maiden init?
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No matter what you put into your system if your speakers are shite it'll sound shite! Simple init?
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burningbush
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Posted: 03 October 2011 at 2:47pm |
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'Was not was' banners on stage front says no,
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