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Silas )))))) 
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 Topic: Whiskey Barrel Bins (SLW Bins) ADVICE NEEDED!Posted: 29 July 2016 at 4:12pm |
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Hello
So I am about to start building a custom Barrel box system for a Pirate Ship DJ Stage (Picture at bottom) I have 12 200l Barrels and some drivers! The plan is to either front load or horn load 3 bass per side, 2 kicks ontop, then a Line array (Barrel Array :) style top system.... its all hugely experimental and will have a certain amount of trial and error. Things i have been told to watch out for are the bass drop off from the bins because the drivers are so close to the edge of the cabnet (in the round). Also with the line array what sort of compression drivers to use, will the effect work with only 1 barrel (strapped back like a standard line array) The Array system I plan to mount using a steel cantilever style support, where the bass cabinets are the weight to support the flown barrel. We have a few barrels spare to play around with, I already have the Void v18 drivers to use in the system but am unsure atm which style bass to go for - Option 1. Front loaded reflex style, possibly ported or Option 2. Horn loaded..... Also I have very little experience of line arrays so anyone opinion on it highly valued! Building will start in a couple weeks Cheers!   Edited by Silas )))))) - 06 November 2016 at 11:22pm |
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James Tengo
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Posted: 29 July 2016 at 4:23pm |
Why not something like innerfield? Was used on Joe Rush's pirate ship at glasto in 2004  |
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Silas ))))))
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Posted: 29 July 2016 at 4:36pm |
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Sure I have seen stood in front of that system a few times, however I dont wanna copy theirs or use plastic barrels but the principle is almost the same.....
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James Tengo
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Posted: 29 July 2016 at 4:56pm |
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It was more the design concept, rather than your option 1 or 2, have the driver in a pod firing backwards.
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krazyneil
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Posted: 29 July 2016 at 5:41pm |
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i think the reflex front loaded bass would be the easiest option and rear port them ,as making and fitting baffles inside the barrels would be a nightmare of a jobwith regards the tops id say 200l tops would be pretty dam big and youd proabably have to section the barrels off maybe to get the drivers to work depending on what your gonna load them with or cut 1 barrell in half and use the 2 halves to make the tops maybe
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Posted: 29 July 2016 at 6:16pm |
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A bit off topic but electric picnac in ireland have an actual ship as one of there stages lol
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Silas ))))))
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Posted: 29 July 2016 at 6:19pm |
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My instinct was front loaded bass, but i was speaking with a designer at Celestion who said the bass wash off the baffle (Because it was round) maybe a issue.....I hadnt heard of that phenominom before. I had a plan for internal baffle fitting, but yes would be a pain.
I would internally divide the hanging tops if needed and probably reduce the volume of the mids too. Drivers wise I am not sure what to use just yet. |
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bob4
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Posted: 30 July 2016 at 9:18pm |
you haven't heard about it because it doesn't exist. At sub frequencies the round baffle has no effect or disadvantage compared to a rectangular shape. |
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Silas ))))))
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Posted: 22 September 2016 at 10:45pm |
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Ok so here is prototype 1.... The SLW (Smells Like Whiskey) Bin
No port, no wadding. Just a V18 in a barrel.... Sounds ok. quite muffled but very solid, no rattles or creaks. 
Im pretty sure I need to port it..... I have some question.....
1. Does it matter if the port is in the front / rear / side? 2. If in the front my idea is to sit the driver off center near the top and place a port below.... If theres room. The barrels volume is 200L...... Can anyone help me work out whats the best size and position to port this SLW bin.... The other idea my friend had is to place the driver at the back of the barrel and flare the exit to make it like a horn..... Cheers guys! P.s the plan is to have 6 void loaded bottoms & 6 kicks on top..... |
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Posted: 23 September 2016 at 10:56am |
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Rear ported would be just fine and helps with the looks aspect
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Posted: 24 September 2016 at 3:48pm |
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Combining two of my favourite things, great project
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Posted: 24 September 2016 at 7:16pm |
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Found this on Fulcrum Acoustic's Facebook page:
Cask-Strength bass to start the weekend. 18", 15" and 12" subwoofers built into decommissioned bourbon barrels. The 12" is a passive cardioid design. http://tinyurl.com/z62pon9 Barrels courtesy of Black Button Distillery. https://blackbuttondistilling.com/  Remember, Goggle is your frond! Edited by jazomir - 24 September 2016 at 7:20pm |
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For sidefills, can we have two enormous things of a type that might be venerated as Gods by the inhabitants of Easter Island, capable of reaching volumes that would make Beelzebub soil his pants.
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