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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote jbl_man Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14 April 2014 at 11:57am
Not infalible though...my pal's desktop iMac thing died completely a few months ago,(it was 3 years old) would not power up...took it to apple store....paid for their diagnosis check thing..power supply they said,they would fit new one...left it with them for 4 days...picked it up..brought home...still dead...back to store....another week..."sorry we cant fix it".

In their favour,they did offer to take his dead one in part-ex for a new machine,but i was suprised it failed so totally.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote shagnasty Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14 April 2014 at 5:39pm
Apple offer amazing service, the dead iMac is a real shock, they normally mend anything for you, quickly, they used to be rock solid stable (G5 on Motorola) once they went intel they became just as unstable as PCs. Hence studio's haeld on to Moto based G5s for grim death and ProTools had to be ported to PC (previously the full blown one was OsX only)
 
Macs are now slower and more unstable than windows.
 
Whilst the better hardware abstraction inherent to OsX' roots means it is hard to pull the kernel down (but in real terms I have never seen a W7 x64 BSOD that wasn't hardware related) you won't find a Mac user on the planet that doesn't know how to get to the "force Quit" menu for when the thing locks up!
 
Performance wise, take one fully loaded iMac, (i7, 32Gb 1TB SSD) bootcamp, process a 20min video clip in After FX CC, under OsX, 38mins, not bad! W7 x64 on same box, 23mins, oh dear!!!!
 
Apple dominate the mobile market because nothing can touch the build quality and service, they have a massive hold in the laptop market for the same reason ( I have several people running W7 on MBPs, great laptops, pity they binned the rj45 in favour of a stupid dongle!) but I kill OsX, W7 straight in, no bootcamp...
 
Pity they have exited the performance market, I high proportion of Mac Pro users would have liked a 3U rackmount  machine with space for full sized cards and dual PSUs, Mac gave them a small dustbin with no card space and no GPU choice, the pro video community then bashed down HP's door for workstations...
 
Helped by Final Cut X being crap to boot, dual high-end Xeons, hotswap 2.5" SSDs for data, multiple GPUs for Cuda processing, FibreChannel, SDI boards, all for similar cash to the dustbin!
 
Basically, to get back on topic, XP was great, but things have moved on, much as I wouldn't have a dell in my house, Lev makes a valid point, £400 pc for £225 with a free (legal, hassle free) copy of W7, what's not to love?
 
Banks, Goverments, etc don't really run XP, they run systems based on XP and if they have spent £sss scripting, locking down and deploying, if it still works, why not keep it. Most of these systems don't have free internet access, could be running IE 6.0 for an intranet, not the free-for-all a home PC is...
 
As I have said before, Linux rocks until you run X, the moment you have X up, you have a workstation that can't run commercial software, I need to run DCX remote, X32 remote, BSS Soundweb software ETC so Linux is never going to be a desktop envroment to me, I use linus as a backend to a lot of things, but forget losing Autodesk, MS Office, Cubase etc...
 
If you have a working XP machine, I would back-it-up (like you should at least once a week!) and carry on with it!
 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Panoramix Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 April 2014 at 5:32pm
there is a few lighter version of windows 7, but as said you can still use window xp, i use it myself on a few pc(less attack than with 7 though LOL).
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apt that I saw this last night, train ticket machine that runs on XP... it had crashed and was showing just the desktop so my girlfriend decided to get creative using the touch screen:


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For the people who say XP is best, and needs no security packages.

http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-27184188

Microsoft has warned consumers that a vulnerability in its Internet Explorer browser could let hackers gain access and user rights to their computer.

The flaw affects Internet Explorer (IE) versions 6 to 11 and Microsoft said it was aware of "limited, targeted attacks" to exploit it.


"XP impact

However, the issue may be of special concern to people still using the Windows XP operating system.

That is because Microsoft ended official support for that system earlier this month.

It means there will be no more official security updates and bug fixes for XP from the firm"


Enjoy... LOL



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Well if people still use IE for personal use they deserve it all anyway... Bit harsh perhaps but hey-ho. IE has improved a little over the years (more like the competition forced it too) but is still far too integrated with the OS for my liking. E.g. you can't just uninstall it like a regular program, it's actually a component of the OS and must be uninstalled piece by piece via the patch list. Yuck.

This is a pretty massive marketing opportunity for Mozilla/Google to push their browsers...
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All my friends and family are now on Windows 7/8 but one friend has just swapped over to UBUNTU quite painlessly (he is a professional techie, though) over the weekend and he is waiting to see if his wife notices that this has happened. I may follow the same path but as I have a full MS Office Professional suite (2003 - old, but still good enough for me) I cannot make up my mind if it is worth the bother. Apparently the office suite etc for UBUNTU is very similar to Open Office which I had loaded onto all my family's machines until wifey bought a 3 user MS Office license 'cos she couldn't work with OpenOffice (too many little things to learn). I had always planned to migrate to a 'free' platform - Chrome/Avast/Malawarebytes + Open Office but will probably stay as  I am until my current machine dies completely and the new machine can be fully Open Source. 

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Originally posted by jazomir jazomir wrote:

All my friends and family are now on Windows 7/8 but one friend has just swapped over to UBUNTU quite painlessly (he is a professional techie, though) over the weekend and he is waiting to see if his wife notices that this has happened. 

I moved main desktop over to UBUNTU approx 8x months ago. 

I'm not a gamer, so don't miss much from Windows. Laptop already dual boots Win 7/UBUNTU.

Only have Windows 7 on laptop, due to Samsung crappy Kies software needed to backup/update phones. 

Just bought I7-860 for my main desktop (which is old LOL), so should run Win 7 in VM & Office 2007 nicely.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote cravings Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28 April 2014 at 4:28pm
yeah tried installing kies in wine... didn't happen. it's an incredibly bad bit of software that. i don't use a samsung phone anymore though so hopefully never have to look at it again.
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I heard if people are still using XP that you are a bit safer using Goggle chrome rather than Internet explorer...

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Originally posted by Dub Specialist Sound Dub Specialist Sound wrote:

I heard if people are still using XP that you are a bit safer using Goggle chrome rather than Internet explorer...

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Chrome is far better and a lot safer. Unfortunately, I am now loading mine up with additional extensions and themes and other stuff so it may end up being like my Firefox which became slower and slower due to the number of add-ons it was carrying. There are some good add-ons to Chrome - I have just found Video Downloader Ultimate  which not only downloads videos in any of the available defs and formats but converts them at the same time and LastPass a password store (amongst other things) which is great 'cos you aren't keeping passwords on your PC/laptop but encrypted on a server so you can access them on whatever device you are using anywhere there is network access. 
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Originally posted by levyte357- levyte357- wrote:

Originally posted by Mark James Mark James wrote:

bit of a shame tbh my desk top is running windows 7 [eurgh!!!!!] and my laptop is running vista.....
both my machines have 2gb+ram and dual core processors but are slow as hell my g/f as an old laptop with xp 256mb of ram and a single core celleron ..... neither of my macines get used because to put it bluntly they are so slow they are unusable any one else noticed this? litteraly i cant even run a web browser on the wind7 machine it cant even keep up with my typing its rediculous :-/ deffo going to be going back to xp asap



Even my phone, graphics card has > 2gb ram.. LOL

You could prob buy used Dell desktop with 4gb ram (DDR3), Core2Duo 2.8ghz cpu for cheap these days.
Including Windows 7 COA license.

Those machines run Windows 7, Office, & browser very nicely... Even better if you upgrade hard disk for £50 to fairly nippy 1TB + 8mb cache SATA III.

So why people wish to inflict unnecessary pain on themselves, by still struggling with XP in the 21st century, I don't know..


problem is i find win 7 so ard to use [and annoyingly constantly crases doesnt run anyting type niggles] we just got a brand new laptop with 4 gb ram dual core processor etc unfortunately win8 and a touch screen..... the old acer i borrowed of my girlfriend [with its monster 256mb of ram] is so much quicker and doesnt miss a beat lol my personal laptop is a vista macine with 4 gb of ram..... slow as hell and a nightmare to use .... i still prefer xp i cant see wat te supposed benefits of using win7/8 is so far all ive noticed is tey realy do my ead in and te new lappy wit its damn touch screen litteraly gives me a eadache [to be fair touc screen fones i cant use wit both eyes as i see two fones litteraly painful] and yep so far taken me over 20 minutes to write tis reply wtf is tat all about? and to clarify te old lappy i borrowed is still better tan te new one my flat mate just spent over a grand on wtf?
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