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    Posted: 23 June 2012 at 11:05am
If anyone saw the programme of the last Ziggy Stardust gig shown last night on BBC4,it was recorded in 1973 at the Hammersmith Odeon.

Any guesses to the vintage PA? This is a screen shot i took friom the programme,WEM cabinets,and to the side,main PA,looks to be a pair of large JBL radials on top of what could be 4560's?



The whole concert is here.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b0074nrj/Ziggy_Stardust_and_the_Spiders_from_Mars/


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The only thing I can add to this, is that his PA company was called Ground Control, and in the early '80's bought a load of Concert System cabs. This was when they were working independently.
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I would like to see a modern H&S bods take on that stack and venue

Will have to catch up with that program though, always time for Bowie.
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Originally posted by TONY.A.S.S. TONY.A.S.S. wrote:

The only thing I can add to this, is that his PA company was called Ground Control, and in the early '80's bought a load of Concert System cabs. This was when they were working independently.



Yes, I think Ground Gontrol was owned by DB's management company and run by Robin Mayhew and somebody else, and Mike Turner was involved somehow. They had a lot of his amplifiers.


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Disco Stu Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 June 2012 at 12:03am
Sorry to hijack thread but I will be playing with the Bowiexperience at Sevens Boatshed (restaurant) in Poole Park (Poole, Dorset) tomorrow night (Friday).

If anyone fancies a meal and some bowie covers in an acoustic style, book yourselves a table

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Useful link here: http://www.5years.com/robinmayhew.htm. Bowie used a Turner PA (not the horn loaded version, the reflex version) for quite a while - as has been mentioned in previous threads, he was at one stage going to use it in a 'Wall of Sound'  fashion.
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Thanks Trevor,that very interesting,what i thought were WEM full range cabinets next to the bigger PA were actually Turner built cabinets....


How many speakers did you use and what type?

The usual configuration consisted of sixteen 1x15" full-range reflex cabinets (20hz to as high as they'd go) - eight 1x10"(200hz to as high as they'd go) and sixteen 075 tweeters (5Khz upward). All drivers were JBL. Sometimes at larger venues such as the Rainbow, Finsbury Park and Hammersmith Odeon, twenty-four 1x15"s would be used. The amplifiers were Turner A500s and A300s and the total output of the standard sixteen cabinet rig would be no more than 3,500KW.

The system looked immaculate with all the speaker cabinets matching and covered in black vinyl with aluminium strips round the edges and this also suited the theatrical nature of the shows. The first mixer consisted of 12 channels only but was soon upgraded to 24. Believe it or not the echo facility was a Watkins Copy Cat tape-loop machine and that was the only sound-effect we used. At the beginning of the Ziggy touring period there were no on-stage monitors but with the wall of sound concept the band could hear the mix very well from their stage positions.


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