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Originally posted by Steve_B Steve_B wrote:

For an alternative small system look for a thread, started by Tony, on his 4 by 3" cabs.



Steve, I never mentioned the 4x3" because it needs two of them to do justice to the output of a Q12. However it does also make it scalable in that they can be used in a 2.1 system.

With the use of the new ferrite version of the original drivers it also make it a very economic box especially considering the performance.





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steve_B   ===== Trust me, I know you joking!

Tony's reputation on here is extremely well earned - I've already checked out about everything he does with these compact systems....  I did wonder about the 4 *3's but the single 8 +cd just appeals (but want the best combination possible... )  I also thought the 8's would double up better than the 4*3's when I later add an extra set of Q12's

_djk_  I did think about 10's when looking for the compact subs but Tony's Q12's seem the business so thats's the route I am taking there......

As far as MT's are concerned I wanted to keep compact and again the look of Tony W's 8 + 1"cd looks the biz - - also read great reviews on here from various sources regarding how good his Q12 + compact MT's systems are  



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Originally posted by Steve_B Steve_B wrote:

For an alternative small system look for a thread, started by Tony, on his 4 by 3" cabs.



Hi -- been looking again at the 4*3" at Tony's suggestion, I think these little beauts are growing on me ---decision time coming soon I suspect Smile


must admit they do look good! Big smile



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Originally posted by George C George C wrote:

 
Originally posted by Steve_B Steve_B wrote:

For an alternative small system look for a thread, started by Tony, on his 4 by 3" cabs.



Hi -- been looking again at the 4*3" at Tony's suggestion, I think these little beauts are growing on me ---decision time coming soon I suspect Smile


must admit they do look good! Big smile
 
I have heard this little beauty in the flesh and was very impressed..... clarity and quality!!!


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hi 'Showcase' Haven't heard it but have already pm'd Tony as I want them, sooner the better, cant wait to have a listen for myself but take yours and all the others word for it......  

seems anyone who has heard them has nothing but high praise -  Smile
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George, I’d definitely listen to them first. The big advantage of the 4 by 3” is the simplicity of the set up. Tony and myself had discussed this type of design because my wife had been threatening to do some gigs on her own. I was looking at systems for her that were light, simple to set up (active crossovers and amp racks need not apply), and would reinforce voice and acoustic guitar. 100dB @ 1m would be more than adequate. The gigs never materialised, so I never pursued the idea beyond “something like this might work”. Tony did, and the next thing I knew he was bringing the prototype round to test with my sub. I think it exceeded both our expectations.

That said, a more conventional design might be better suited to what you need. You need to decide exactly what aspects of the design/performance are important to you and which aspects can be compromised.

If you are arranging to audition the 4 by 3” with Tony, if it is convenient I can let you listen to the BMS coaxes too.

The picture below gives a comparison of the box sizes I use. Left to right, Eminence 10” coax, RCF 10” with B&C 250 on tractrix horn, PD 8” with BMS 4524 on oblate spheroid horn, 8” BMS coax.

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Steve_B

Just spent 20mins trying to explain decisions and then lost connection  Dead  so to summarise.....

To steve,  all decisions made re Q's based on gut reactions rather than anything scientificEmbarrassed

Love the look of the Q43's and may use to go back doing DJ work after all these years...

Like the idea of 8" +cd for doing indoor band PA system using Multi Q12's + MTs to suit ...

So my feelings are that if I go along the lines of Q12 ====  Q43's and Q8 (is there a Q8???) if not I am sure there soon will be, then I will have a very versatile system, compact enough for my needs and yet suitable for any gig i find myself doing.....

As an aside I would love to hear before I build but what the hell! take a chance == feels right, I understand that Tony is in the W Mids somewhere, but where are you -   I am Norfolk but distance doesn't usually bother me (--ish)

Many thanks for interest and input


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Originally posted by George C George C wrote:


As an aside I would love to hear before I build but what the hell! take a chance == feels right, I understand that Tony is in the W Mids somewhere, but where are you -   I am Norfolk but distance doesn't usually bother me (--ish)

Many thanks for interest and input


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About 15 mins from Tony if the M6 is clear.

Whichever of these systems you end up choosing, they will sound better than the typical 12/15" Peavey, Wharfdale, Soundlab, type of disco speaker.

Just because a system is physically small doesn't mean it shouldn't lack quality, clarity and punch.
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Originally posted by Steve_B Steve_B wrote:

 

Whichever of these systems you end up choosing, they will sound better than the typical 12/15" Peavey, Wharfdale, Soundlab, type of disco speaker.

Just because a system is physically small doesn't mean it shouldn't lack quality, clarity and punch.


So I am beginning to understand!! I really want this compact system(s) to show some others up!! LOL

that reminds me - I have some Peavey to get rid of ----- but that's another thread Big smile

Will pm if I can get your way soon Smile

Many thanks again 

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