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STRINGA 
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 Posted: 05 October 2005 at 2:46am |
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Criss What country are you in ?? , if your in australia, I will give you some contacts for speaker suppliers Peter |
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criss
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Posted: 06 October 2005 at 11:11am |
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Peter, My very close friend, who is very good in wood work, has told me that he would make the Scoop bins for me. I have the plans for 15" given in Dancetech.com. Are there 12" versions made. And i wanna know, would it perform well with 12" version, and should i go for 60% / 70% of the plans of 15". |
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STRINGA
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Posted: 06 October 2005 at 6:51pm |
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CRISS YES 12"'S WOULD WORK THE SAME , ALL YOU NEED TO DO IS DIVIDE ALL MEASUREMENTS ON THE 15" PLAN BY A FACTOR OF 1.2 IF YOU WERE MAKING 18"S YOU WOULD MULTIPY THE MEASURMENTS BY A FACTOR OF 1.2 LET ME KNOW HOW YOU GO, I CAN EMAIL SOME PICTURES OF MY 18" IF YOU LIKE ?? SEND ME YOUR EMIAL IN A PRIVATE MESSAGE AND I'LL SEND YOU SOME PICS |
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minaximal
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Posted: 06 October 2005 at 7:17pm |
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nonono. people have built 12" scoops, but they dont work very well, and you cant just scale it by 1.2... wtf you can get 12" drivers nowadays that may be up to the job, but if the horn isnt long enuff its not going to work, even if half of the radiated sound is direct, your still going to have problems.. either do it properly ie. design them using known principles, and have a nice sounding set of speakers or bodge it using random equations, and have poor quality sounding boxes. |
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biotec
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Posted: 07 October 2005 at 5:48am |
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I don't mean to be rude but in a technical advice forum you should be giving technical advice. Dividing speaker measurements by a factor does not make a decent speaker. |
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Posted: 11 October 2005 at 5:45am |
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...Hi, If someone need plans for 15" scoop these may be interesting.
http://groups.msn.com/SpeakerBuildingpics/shoebox.msnw?actio n=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=18 Best wishes, Stipe
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STRINGA
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Posted: 12 October 2005 at 3:23am |
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Thanks for the plans for es-15blh Can this design be used with 12" drivers ??? i have a few drivers sitting in boxes and would love to use them |
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Tom Umney
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Posted: 12 October 2005 at 8:17am |
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rastaman posted this from the Eminence book a while ago, it has the 12 inch scoop in there. |
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razorray
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Posted: 14 March 2006 at 5:56pm |
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Hi,Does any one know who the VOID 1000W spaeker sounds in a 18" super scooper
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mans1000
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Posted: 15 March 2006 at 4:01am |
From what I know it would sound the dog's bollocks!! |
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Mark James
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Posted: 15 March 2006 at 10:54am |
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@ toxic those scoop designs have a tweeter [apt80] but id suggest putting a mid box above so its only mounted in the bass bin to save space and is still on an active x-over above the mids [does that make sense?] basicaly id only mount them like that to save space! id not shove mid through the bass driver and the tweeter [im guessing hes got a fairly low x-over there so the mid would be shared between mid and bass drivers. OUCH!] put something inbetween before you kill your drivers [well it cnat be doing the cones any good can it! im not an expert but im sure its not helping/doing the longevity of the drivers any help
whatsoever!] anyway how low will scoops go with that driver [its about £60 no?] might be good for a sub for small partys/ rehearsing raggae bands. and what plans to use with said driver? doubt rogs super scoop would allow that kind of driver?
[edit] ahhh i see! the tweeter in the eminence plan is for bass guitarists not pa! [my bass cab is a 1x15" reflex with a little tweeter just to bring ou tthe highs might do that with my guitar 4x12" would sharpen her up!] Edited by coner - 15 March 2006 at 10:56am |
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Tom Umney
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Posted: 15 March 2006 at 5:36pm |
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@ coner: Which driver you mean was a £60 driver? LOL I wouldn't use 12 inch scoops for any proper event. And if you meant the Fane 18XB thats a £170 pro driver rated 600w AES with 4 inch vc and a classic driver used in scoops. BTW: That above post was hard to read m8. Nope don't add a tweeter in scoop bins,as the bass frequencies will over power and drown out the highs and sound muffled and sh*te. 18 inch scoop, 12 inch straight horn mid and bullet tweeters on top of that is the way reggae sound systems do it.
Edited by ToXiC - 15 March 2006 at 5:37pm |
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