186 horn or USB

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   Hey iv got 2 PD.186 drivers sittig here and cant decide what to put them in i was looking at more sub orientated designs but the majority of music played in this area now has canged from dubstep to psytrance, electro and the likes were the kick is more prominent...

So iv decdided that i should get or build one of these to mount the drivers in... 

THere is still quite abit of dubstep and dnb played mind you so i would like it to hit the lower frequencies as best as possible as i cant afford to build or buy a sub and a bass box atm.I intend to build more in the future after so i dont mind it being a bit weak in the lower frequencies till iv buikd more.Iv also heard both these cabs can both hit lower frequencies pretty well if youv got enough of them... :)

So USB or 2x 186 horn? 

thanks alot for listenng to my blabbering! 

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Adam_Iron_Horse Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Old Croc Joined: 02 January 2010 Location: Scotland Status: Offline Points: 2043	Post Options Post Reply Quote Adam_Iron_Horse Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: 186 horn or USB Posted: 14 April 2010 at 8:58pm
	Hey iv got 2 PD.186 drivers sittig here and cant decide what to put them in i was looking at more sub orientated designs but the majority of music played in this area now has canged from dubstep to psytrance, electro and the likes were the kick is more prominent... So iv decdided that i should get or build one of these to mount the drivers in... THere is still quite abit of dubstep and dnb played mind you so i would like it to hit the lower frequencies as best as possible as i cant afford to build or buy a sub and a bass box atm.I intend to build more in the future after so i dont mind it being a bit weak in the lower frequencies till iv buikd more.Iv also heard both these cabs can both hit lower frequencies pretty well if youv got enough of them... :) So USB or 2x 186 horn? thanks alot for listenng to my blabbering!

The Builder Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Old Croc Joined: 03 January 2010 Status: Offline Points: 3107	Post Options Post Reply Quote The Builder Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 14 April 2010 at 10:34pm
	Or 2 x 205 litre reflex. 35 to 120 with ease.
	It just is.

Adam_Iron_Horse Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Old Croc Joined: 02 January 2010 Location: Scotland Status: Offline Points: 2043	Post Options Post Reply Quote Adam_Iron_Horse Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 15 April 2010 at 10:02pm
	ahh didnt think about reflex... Would it meet a midtop with a 12" driver in it??

The Builder Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Old Croc Joined: 03 January 2010 Status: Offline Points: 3107	Post Options Post Reply Quote The Builder Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 15 April 2010 at 10:59pm
	Hell yes http://www.proaudioparts.co.uk/pdguide.asp?id=pdguide There is a typo at the bottom, easy to spot. Man did the job for us, long ago but makes sense still
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noislinger Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Registered User Joined: 01 March 2007 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 147	Post Options Post Reply Quote noislinger Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 17 April 2010 at 1:14pm
	if you want a system that will work evenly for most genre's and is going to be used mostly indoors then reflex (direct radiating) is the way forward. if you want to do more gigs outdoors and think your more likely to have the psy/elctro, more than the dubstep/dnb then maybe a horn is the answer (certainly alot louder, and will give more detail, better dynamic range) the 186 is likely to play lower than the usb and will work better as an all round bass horn. but then in most smaller indoor venues horns can do serious dammage to a venue and yet sound sht 5m back from the stack.
	www.totemaudio.co.uk/

Adam_Iron_Horse Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Old Croc Joined: 02 January 2010 Location: Scotland Status: Offline Points: 2043	Post Options Post Reply Quote Adam_Iron_Horse Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 18 April 2010 at 8:26pm
	oryt i thin a reflex would be a better idea then as it will mostly be used inside and if outwside not to too many people as itd mostl be for free parties... so what kinda reflex design would be good? like the b&c sub 18 or what?

The Builder Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Old Croc Joined: 03 January 2010 Status: Offline Points: 3107	Post Options Post Reply Quote The Builder Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 18 April 2010 at 8:52pm
	It's in the link, 205 litre internal 150mm ports 303mm long 580 wide, 760 high 650 deep. Recess front panel by 30mm. One brace accross back in a cross about 100mm x 18 The above is about right.
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Adam_Iron_Horse Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Old Croc Joined: 02 January 2010 Location: Scotland Status: Offline Points: 2043	Post Options Post Reply Quote Adam_Iron_Horse Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 18 April 2010 at 9:10pm
	haha sorry didnt see your posted it skipped it when i opened the page :S cheers :)

Adam_Iron_Horse Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Old Croc Joined: 02 January 2010 Location: Scotland Status: Offline Points: 2043	Post Options Post Reply Quote Adam_Iron_Horse Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 18 April 2010 at 9:17pm
	just read the site it says a 180 litre capacity for pd.186? :S oooops just read whole page.. sorry forbeing a twat! :L Edited by Adam_Iron_Horse - 18 April 2010 at 9:19pm

The Builder Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Old Croc Joined: 03 January 2010 Status: Offline Points: 3107	Post Options Post Reply Quote The Builder Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 18 April 2010 at 9:43pm
	The actual size of cab suggested in the article would be weird. The size I have put is a little deeper than a CVA cab, these are a nice size for stacking etc. Obviously porting is better as tuning of CVA's seems to be aimed at 50hz. Actual CVA's below.
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The Builder Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Old Croc Joined: 03 January 2010 Status: Offline Points: 3107	Post Options Post Reply Quote The Builder Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 18 April 2010 at 9:49pm
	Actually there are some CVA's for sale somewhere on here, only MDf but if it's just a B rig. Extend the inner shelf (port) to about 260mm from the baffle (180 std) and they work very well. Bit of hole filling if you're mounting PDs'. Edit. Found them http://forum.speakerplans.com/robert-nisbet-april-2010-sales-list_topic37750.html Bend his arm, grills, handles and speakons must come to £60? Edited by The Builder - 18 April 2010 at 9:53pm
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