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colinmono 
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Just made up a 16a Ceeform plug > Permaplug 13a 4 way with 1.5mm H07 and it was a fairly snug fit into the cable entry on the Permaplug 4 way; I know 2.5mm would be preferable, will 2.5mm H07 really fit in there?
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kedwardsleisure
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Posted: 05 January 2018 at 10:21pm |
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I managed 2.5 into a 2-way 13A-use permaplug a few years ago. But that was to ensure compliant earth loop impedance on the run.
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dylan-penguinmedia
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Posted: 05 January 2018 at 11:03pm |
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It does fit, we have 80 x 16a T lines to 4 way Permaplugs with 2.5 H07, but like you say, it’s snug!
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Posted: 06 January 2018 at 12:32am |
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Ferrules are your friends in these situations
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colinmono
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Posted: 06 January 2018 at 8:18am |
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Thanks.
Thanks James, I meant the flex entry to the body of the Permaplug 4 way looks tight for 2.5mm H07 - the terminals look like they will accept 2.5mm ok, but I'll use ferrules anyway.
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csg
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Posted: 06 January 2018 at 8:43am |
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we ferrule every mains connection, simply a better solution. however I was under the impression that stuffing cable larger than the connector was designed for was a PAT fail - and that 13A should be a maximum of 1.5mm ( and nominally 1.25mm).
Given that 1.5mm is more than adequate for 16A over a shortish distance what is the reason people feel the need to try and fit 2.5mm cable into 13A plugs and sockets?
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colinmono
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Posted: 06 January 2018 at 10:03am |
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It's a 5m 16a ceeform plug to fused 13a 4 way socket. My first thought was to use 1.5mm then I trawled through a few discussions on the topic on here and most people seemed to have gone with 2.5mm cable so started to question myself. |
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Posted: 06 January 2018 at 10:19am |
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1.5mm would be perfectly adequate at 16A, if your socket is fused at 13A across all sockets, then 1.25mm would be adequate!
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Posted: 06 January 2018 at 12:10pm |
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My preferred set up would be:
5m long 16A cable on 2.5mm 16A to fused 13A 4way on short 1.5mm More versatile, avoids a 5m coil of cable when your 16A supply is near |
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colinmono
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Posted: 06 January 2018 at 12:35pm |
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Sounds good for general purpose cables. This cable is for a specific home use purpose (outside power for working in the yard), so extra connections would be overcomplicating things I think.
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imageoven
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Posted: 06 January 2018 at 12:45pm |
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I don't really like the 16A to 13A four way at all though (4 way will be marked 'max supply 13A' so technically a PAT fail)
I stock the single 16 to single 13A adapters and these http://www.rubberbox.co.uk/16A-supply/RUBSSP16413 |
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Posted: 06 January 2018 at 1:07pm |
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These are the adapter I prefer
https://goo.gl/images/6ZNKmH One of these at the wall socket, Standard 13a four way extension cable. 30mARCD at wall if there isn't one over the 16A supply already |
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