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    Posted: 15 October 2009 at 5:54pm
Hello everbody!

Does someone know something more about the following 21" FLH designs?
Any audible impressions?
Some facts about the driver, flare rate, folding, hornpath length?
Would be nice to get some replies of what you think about these 21" designs! Thumbs Up Thumbs Down Question
Do you know some other 21" FLH?
Are there any 21" DIY projects out there?

Here they are:

- ASS SB 121H
ASS SB121H

- Föön E545HL:
Föön E545HL

- Porkolab BH 121:
Porkolab BH 121


greez



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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote paulus Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 October 2009 at 6:46pm
i know its take 4 people to lift the ASS 21" and it has a pd2150 in
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Ibex Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 October 2009 at 7:17pm
I do believe, for my Audio-Guru 2x12" bassorns it takes 4 people too...

How do they sound compared to the well known 18" designs?
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Ibex Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 October 2009 at 7:25pm
What's the correct depth of the cab, because I also found these specs:

ASS SB121H old

D = 881mm or 1120mm Question

Are there another disparities between the two differently sized cabs?
Or was it just a misprint?
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote DjMidKnight Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 October 2009 at 7:28pm
im not sure i know that vega has a 21" out now also that they claim can do 144db all by itself
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Yes, you are right!
Now I can remember that I already saw the new Cerwin-Vega! TS-42 on the Pro Light & Sound fair this year in Frankfurt...

Cerwin-Vega! TS-42

Bummer, that I had no chace to hear it at full power, only silent mode, but it seemed to play forsooth as deep as what the specs assure, but I'm not sure enough.

http://forum.speakerplans.com/new-cerwin-vega-horn_topic23859&OB=ASC_page1.html


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Ibex Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 October 2009 at 9:00pm
What are the advantages/disadvantages of loading a horn with a 21"?
Is there only an approvement of higher sensitivity by reason of a bigger Sd?
Are 21" horns shorter than 18" horns to archive the same cut-off?
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote DjMidKnight Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 October 2009 at 4:35am
no they arent shorter to reach the same cutoff. as a result of the larger diameter of the driver the horn is actualy longer. a TS 42 is ALOT bigger than the ab36 is. however its also got larger wheels and a bar handle so its actually easier to move aside from lifting it.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote mykey Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 October 2009 at 6:54am
pretty good if you want to shift some air below 40, otherwise stick to 12, 15's and 18's 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote airbell Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 October 2009 at 8:41am
Does anybody knows if the 108dB from the ts-42 are for 1/2, 1/4 or 1/8 space??
And if its for 1 speaker or more?Shocked
coz the el-36c is claimed to have 106dB but at the prosoundweb shootouts
he didnt make a impressive appearance and didnt seemed to have
really 106dB 1w1m in general.he had a lot less output below 50hz than lab-horn in single...
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote paulus Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 October 2009 at 9:58am
pretty good if you want to shift some air below 40, otherwise stick to 12, 15's and 18's+1
exactly what we found
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Porkolab BH 121 FLH. Ezt mi készítjük. Már PS Audio névvel. 21" Carbon fiber woofer.

Edited by Balázs1981 - 15 March 2023 at 9:35am
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