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Mini-mad, no shots in the field yet. I have a "proper" full time job these days, not doing much sound related stuff anymore. The prospect of that job was one factor that pushed me over the edge last summer to take the plunge and start this project. But I'll continue with baby steps
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Back from the "paint shop"......
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Paint skills not unlike mine!! LOL

Can't wait to see which bass cab (horn?) You knock out with that half inch'd half inch ply you have there...




Edited by mini-mad - 11 May 2018 at 10:18pm
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I'm having a few days off, and will try to push ahead with this project in the meantime..... 

I gutted the speakers again tonight in preparation of my next moves.

I had noticed before that the speakers produce distinctive tonal sound when tapped/beaten. Tonight I fired up a very crude software called iSpectrum (very useful for quick and dirty RTA directly from the internal mic) to investigate this. 

I did some bongo solos on the two cabs, and could see distinct panel resonances, with some small differences between the two cabs, due to differing placement of glued in battens. The first cabinet has the crossovers mounted close to the slot -> center of the cabinet. This was a big mistake because it inhibits installation of the second (higher) woofer to the slot. The second cab has the crossovers close to the top of the cabinet. The result is ~320 Hz vs. ~340 Hz main panel resonance. Could almost tune my guitar to the higher one LOL  (never mind the harmonics...... I'll see if I can bother to do some more in-depth analysis on this)

conclusion: more bracing needed, and I have to be very careful to keep the physical layout of both cabs as close to identical as I can, otherwise I will have to EQ the pair individually, and take care to not interchange them by accident Shocked

10 mm plywood is definitely on the thin side - there seem to be no shortcuts when building a midtop. A hard lesson learned. But as we say in both finnish and german: You don't look into a horse's mouth if you receive it as a present Confused 

'scuse me while I ingest some more beer and contemplate my next move Big smile





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Originally posted by bob4 bob4 wrote:

But as we say in both finnish and german: You don't look into a horse's mouth if you receive it as a present Confused 

There's an English version of that too - "You don't look a gift horse in the mouth."

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Originally posted by DMorison DMorison wrote:

Enjoy the beer ;)


Thank you sir, I did! While drinking it I did a wiring plan. Will solder the 12 pin dt switches next.

Today I decided to finally bite the bullet and headed towards a local tool shop specializing in woodworking tools. They have an outstanding selection of quality merchandise on display in the shop. The owner gave excellent service and patiently answered my amateurish questions. Result:   


Next up sharpening the damn thing and building a shooting board for it.
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Started adding braces.....



Or shall i say in this case a support strut to install crossovers on, that also happens to add mass and damp panel modes. Actual braces to be added soon

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So after ages I am in the process of approaching an end with this build........ i have done some small improvements ln the speakers, but i realized i haven't posted any of it on here, it has all gone straight to fb.....

Here are a few pics from the latest attempt to install the tophats that have been laying around for the past couple of months. Embarrassed

I still use mainly handtools, but have found an experienced good friend with a workshop and power tools to help me out once in a while. So I have been fortunate enough to learn how to use a plunge router under his instruction. 

I made router templates for the hole and the recess. I marked the place of the tophat with one of those very practical little electric engravers that sometimes can be had at Lidl for 8€. With a few passes i cut through the warnex to bare wood. Then we taped the circumference of the cut, and the underside of the template, and applied some superglue. This is a neat way to hold routing guides in place, omitting clamps altogether. After routing the tape is peeled off, and both template and workpiece survive unscathed.

Since the boxes are built from very thin stock i also had to prepare two pieces of plywood to reinforce the inside of the bottom. I clmpleted the routing and fitting on both boxes, but I ran out of time after this. Next time i will add some more bracing to the other box, seal the top hats with some black adhesive/caulk/whatevee, and reassemble. After that they will be completed. The only further improvement after that might be a grill/foam to make it a bit more tidy, but that is optional and not a priority.








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aaand at long last, finally, the boxes have been finished!!!!!

Here is a short soundcheck clip from an event i did yesterday. I paired the cabs with a pair of 12" tapped horns that i borrowed from a friend. 



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Fantastic bro..i love it man....

loving that bass mid top too..:-)
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nice work. love that pre amp. Is it a pre amp? home made?
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