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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote jethrocker Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30 September 2006 at 5:21pm
just accept it... most of us here are going to damage our backs, our ears and our finances for sure.
 
But seriously, go steady, sciatica hurts. A lot.
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It they do the job, I wont complain.
 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Tom Umney Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 October 2006 at 7:43am
Personally with scoops I'd never lift them. Just drag them around on the castors. Or maybe lift them between 2-3 strong people.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote jethrocker Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 October 2006 at 7:16pm
Sometimes you just have to lift them. 
Up stairs, into the van etc(unless you're fortunate enough to have a decent van with tail lift-too poor for that, maybe I can get something cheap off shortman?)
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Jay Lawless Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 October 2006 at 8:25pm
Jethrocker -  exactly why i mentioned "light weight" to you in PM ! haha
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Nigey-C Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 October 2006 at 8:40pm
Jethrocker - Use a Ramp?? addin a tail lift to your van will only mean you can carry less gear in it!
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote djstefanos Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 October 2006 at 8:52pm
sell your van, buy a japanese one that has a very low trailer at the back. about 2 feet off the ground
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote jethrocker Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06 October 2006 at 7:44pm
I did mention the financial issue..so what makes you think I could afford to import a van from japan?
yeah, could use a ramp..but when you're trying to get six superscoopers, several large racks, and all the rest into a hi-top trannie lifting (of the awkward, twisted damaging kind) is inevitable.
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Just a quick question. Im about to build the Super Scooper, it all seems quite obvious except the front support; if you look at the mouth at the front their is the vertical support and a horizontal one (making a + cross). I can see how the vertical one screws in but is the horizontal one only screwed to the sides  and not to the centre vertical one? I don't see how you could screw it, maybe do one side, but once thats in how do you do the other side?

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote jethrocker Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 October 2006 at 8:51pm
Yep, it's tricky.. depends on the order of the rest of the build, but generally there will have to be one joint without screws.
When we built ours the cross went in before the side went on..we made the horizontal one piece straight across, with routed channels to take the upper and lower sections of the vertical (they need to be cut spot on)..
The top section will slide in and can be screwed from the top from inside the chamber down. as the bottom section is already home and screwed top and bottom you can then clamp between the driver cutout and the horizontal to pull it type while the glue sets on the top peice.
 
I spent alot of time bending my mind on this..there are other ways but not really anyway to do it without one joint going without screws. The only way would bve to build the cross outside the box, then fit it whole and screw from all four directions..but difficult to keep it all square and accurate that way.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Tobin Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 October 2006 at 9:23pm
Hmmm, i think some clever routing is in order. Problem is i don't own one, meaning i haven't had much practice with routers. I guess i could do a few practice joints and just plan it out carefully.

Did you ever consider putting a slot half way though both the vertical and horizontal so they slot together? A and B both have the slot so they can slide together (you can only see cross-section of B):




You still couldn't screw them but presumably with glue it would be pretty damn strong? Because of the nature of the joint you would have good strength on both axis...

Edited by Tobin - 15 October 2006 at 9:35pm
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote COWFOOT Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 October 2006 at 11:26pm
You can use  the pocket-hole screw technique. KREG makes a pocket-hole jig. Google. Used to attach table tops to rails is a popular use.
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