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MarjanM
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Posted: 11 June 2024 at 4:21pm |
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Thermal limiting is reffered to the thermal limit of the drivers.
They are in a closed chamber and pushing them too much will definitely cook them. Forget program power. I will be affraid of giving them the specified 1500W AES for loger time.
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Posted: 14 July 2024 at 11:27pm |
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A similar discussion going on in this thread. I just posted some details comparing the 442 and the 60
https://forum.speakerplans.com/topic108284_post1074702.html#1074702 Last night I was running 2x WSX loaded with RCF LF18X451 on a Powersoft K20. Didn't really see any clipping with +4db gain on the bass on the driverack K20 was on max vol DSP bypassed I think I had a 3800W limit set per channel and a little bit of limit on the driverack to protect them. Handles over the driver enclosure were still really warm a few hours after the gig. I was thinking about what you were saying about adding an aluminium plate for cooling. I have heard about someone doing this with WSX but those handles are very useful (even if I had to flip mine around to make them fit around the magnet)! However There could be some scope for adding one between the handles. If you do you add one you should design it to make contact with the magnet, for example, with another piece of alloy bolted on the inside that sits at the same angle as the speakers and use thermal silicone heat pads to make contact, leave a hole in the middle if your drivers have one. Even a small water cooling system could be good if it's well built, very risky in case of leaks but potentially you could just have a dc plug socket in the speaker hatch where you plug in a small power supply. It would be an interesting build. Water cooled subs! Perhaps consider the LF18X451 I've put 4 of them through their paces and they are proving to be a good investment. With potentially large x-max I removed some wood around the baffle because the LF18X451 seemed to be of slightly larger diameter. I didn't want to risk the surround touching the baffle. Double check this on yours before you fit your drivers. I used a feinn tool to remove around 2 or 3mm all the way around. Why did you choose Oberton? I've got no experience with them. Edited by izzzzzz6 - 15 July 2024 at 5:23am |
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Posted: 17 July 2024 at 10:52am |
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An engineer, with increasing experience of working inside these, has told me, the amps with the very latest improvements, latest components are the ones to go for. Not particularly, for a quest for max power, but for better sound quality, and reliability.
Still does not recommend these for 2 ohm use. Definitely means not AD42. |
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Posted: 23 March 2025 at 2:33am |
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Posted: 23 March 2025 at 2:36am |
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The ad442 and ad60 are both the same, just that the ad60 is bridged from factory ad60 also have one extra fan.
Ad60 will have a deeper tone on low ends compare to the AD442 using it in stereo setting. I own Both AD60 and Ad442 also the AD42 and have compared all before. The Powersoft K20 will offer better quality, over these chineses based amplifier, but for the cost it is worth it, they have proven their realiability and performance in the feilds. I would'nt recommend u bridging the AD442 and driving Bass, The ad42 is by far the best out of the three, they still use the GaN material in the output channel, but the PSU are old fashion Class D, which are very good also. The fan placement of the AD42 is also the best out of these amps, they are placed direct opposite the heatsinks, 3 for PSU 2 for Channel board. The AD42 is more than enough to drive 4 of yours speakers and will still have enough headroom, Just make sure you run them 240, and have stable high current mains supply.
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Posted: 24 March 2025 at 12:17pm |
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We are usinf ad442 on subs at 4 ohm per channel for over a year now. Zero problems and tons of power. Done festiivals where they were on full blast for 5-6 days 24/7.
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Posted: 24 March 2025 at 2:25pm |
what made you go for Admark over CVR or Sinbosen? Just the GaN and higher power rating or any other advantages you see in the Admark amps? Does Admark have variable speed fans? Sinbosen I have is single speed and very noisy. |
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Posted: 28 March 2025 at 4:53pm |
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I don't understand why the AD442 cant deliver more power and 2ohm than at 4ohm. Surely GaN should mean that they can deliver more current than similar amp without GaN and therefore be capable of high power at low impedance.
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Posted: 29 March 2025 at 11:14am |
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Never used any of the other amps you mentioning.
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Posted: 29 March 2025 at 11:16am |
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Probably power supply limitation. AD60 is also not that much more at 2 ohm.
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Posted: 30 March 2025 at 12:01pm |
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I am using the same Amplifiers but from Manufacturer Morin instead of Admark
I am using 4x Morin D420 2x4200w on 8OHM (same as AD42) for driving 16x WSX and 2x Morin X-1304 4x3100w on 8OHM for driving 8x F2B Until now I have nothing to complain about. Morin has better prices than admark delivering the same quality imo. I had Admark before with DSP and had both open. Build quality and used components are the same. It seems like the components and boards all come from the same company and morin or admark just put the boards together in a housing in there companys. But all produced somewhere else I assume with CVR its the same. DSP's from them are bad I switched to the non-DSP Amps with two ASC48 after testing the DSP. Edited by Gynaekologe - 30 March 2025 at 12:03pm |
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Posted: 08 April 2025 at 12:34pm |
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Morin has introduced a K55
4500 watts per channel @ 8 ohms 8400 watts per channel @ 4 ohms 9000 watts per channel @ 2 ohms The above wattage is based upon crest factor. Best Regards,
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