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Lucasdude
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Posted: 19 June 2025 at 1:55pm |
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Isn't that longevity test indicative of how the amps with a claimed 5000w output only achieves 40hz sinewave output of less than 2750w @ 1% THD? The same test even down to 20hz with a Crest Audio Pro series amp would yield the claimed output at an astonishingly low 0.1% THD! If that K30 was tested at 20hz with 0.1% THD I wonder what the continuous output would be? By the same token, if the Crest amp was tested only to the same level that the K30 yielded its claimed output, I wonder what the output would be?
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levyte357-
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Posted: 19 June 2025 at 3:41pm |
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To be honest, lightweight reported amp specs, are typically to be taken with a pinch of salt. As said previously test/demo/preview before buying, to avoid disappointment. Don't expect £800 cheapie, to perform same, and have same reliability, as a Powersoft K20.
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Elliot Thompson
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Posted: 20 June 2025 at 12:01pm |
All Class D Professional Amplifiers designed these days (at the date of writing) are using the Crest Factor method as advertised ratings. If you look at the Measured Crest Factor chart, the K 30 offers the same output from 20 Hz - 100 Hz. So 4806.03 from 100 Hz - 20 Hz is 3398.89 watts continuous average at 4 ohms, @ 1% THD. That falls in line with Marketing which, will just state 5000 watts. So, the K 30 falls within its specifications. There is a misconception with low THD percentages. Any amplifier can achieve a low THD percentage providing you measure the amplifier multiple decibels away from clipping. Our industry (Sound Reinforcement) is about achieving a lot decibels without clipping the amplifier during process for, we know, a clipped amplifier is audible distortion. Bear in mind, the Longevity test offers a 0.96 dB differential when comparing 3398.89 watts and 2724.84 watts. No one in our industry is going to hear a difference from 3398.89 watts to 2724.84 watts. So it does not make sense the drive the amplifier into clipping and offer a deformed sinusoidal waveform. I am one of the few individuals in the sound reinforcement industry that measure amplifier output levels into frequencies ranging into single digits. Personally, my concern is what the amplifier can offer in terms of output from 20 Hz - 5 Hz if, I purchased it for Sub use. The only reason I used 40 Hertz, is due to the popularity of users on Speakerplans focusing on 40 Hertz. Best Regards, |
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Posted: 30 June 2025 at 9:27am |
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Ok, here's one. Someone has asked me to recommend a (cheapish) lightweight to do around 1kW/channel into 8 ohm. I'm really not sure what to say. Any ideas? I'd like to put reliability at the top of the list, NOT how many millions of watts some bigger model would give... ![]() Ta. |
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levyte357-
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Posted: 30 June 2025 at 1:55pm |
How many drivers, per channel are they intending? What's the mains power supply, "typically", at each venue? Whats the music material, they intend to play? Rock, pop, country and western, dubstep, Dub Reggae? Would suggest Powersoft K20, if budget allows approx €2600. in UK, many people are happy about buying and using Admark 2x channels on sub. Is also now possible, to get AD42/AD60s "upgraded", to be more reliable. To me, seems the logical step, just before buying X4L/X8. Edited by levyte357- - 30 June 2025 at 3:03pm |
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Posted: 30 June 2025 at 4:10pm |
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I said "Cheapish" -- not top of the line!! ![]() They run a small DJ setup. 2 x double 18's & JBL M350's on top! ![]() The amp would be for the bass cabs, 2 x Meyer 650's, loaded with P-Audio E18-600's, so no need for 1000's of watts. At the moment powered from an Altair MF2400 - a very nice amp, but a bit heavy. The guy wants to reduce the weight he has to move around. I was just wondering if Admark is better than Morin, or Sanway, or CVR, or... |
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Posted: 30 June 2025 at 5:03pm |
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https://www.bluearan.co.uk/index.php?id=JMSB8
My suggestion for earplug. Haven't used this exact one but have used one of the other 4 channel ones and it's been solid. I think those 2 x bigger channels and 2 x smaller channel ones are a clever shout. |
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Elliot Thompson
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Posted: 30 June 2025 at 5:11pm |
They all fall within the same realm in terms of reliability. It would be a matter of finding one that delivers 1000 watts per channel @ 8 ohms that fall within the budget. Honestly, the price point on these amplifiers are so low for what you get in terms of raw power, there is no reason for the person not to find something. Best Regards, |
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Earplug
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Posted: 30 June 2025 at 6:44pm |
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Ok, thanks for the replies. Back in the Good Ole Days, I did buy a few bits & pieces from Blue Aran. Good service & nice people, but then some Moron decided cut the UK from it's biggest market & make shipping, etc. a nightmare, never mind the extra taxes & pig-headed custom services here. One shipment (my last!) took nearly 4 months to clear here despite all the paperwork being fine. I think that were just pissed off over Gibraltar & took it out on me!! So, shopping in the UK a no go, I'm afraid... And I guess yeah - given that the amps are all manufactured by the same 2/3/4 factories, then rebadged, I'll just do some Googling. |
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Posted: 30 June 2025 at 8:45pm |
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i order from blue aran to ireland sometimes.. i've said on here before that andy was more on it than anyone else i've experienced when it came to brexit, and it's been painless every time for me anyway.
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Posted: 01 July 2025 at 6:21am |
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Ok, but like I said, customs here are something else. Another guy I know has had problems importing stuff from the USA as well, so not just a Brexit thing, but that obviously hasn't helped. After my last experience, I just can't be bothered.
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Posted: 01 July 2025 at 8:46am |
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I was looking into the ADMARK amps, how do you even get them? I found no dealers one alibaba and amazon ad one ebay listing from the USA one admark site, with a blank contact form linked when you click "send inquiry" (and found specs in the description don't seem to match later listed specs)
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