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    Posted: 08 May 2020 at 5:51pm
Hi so I am trying to create a small setup for bbqs/small parties in my garden. I currently have 2x Funktion 1 res 1's and I'm struggling with what to look for in terms of amps/processors.

I am new to this so if you could include any explanations/reasons on what you would get I'd really appreciate it. 

I was thinking either an FFA4004 or 6004 and an XTA DP-226 Processor?

Basically I have a set of cdjs and a mixer and I am wanting to play this through the speakers - if anyone could point me in some direction in what I need to make these speakers work and sound nice it'd be really appreciated. Thanks for reading, all the best.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote Conanski Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 May 2020 at 6:30pm
If you don't have the passive crossover modules for these you will need 4 amp channels and a DSP but you don't need thousands of watts, these things will get loud connected to a home theater receiver. Unless of course you want LOUD.
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FFA6004 DSPG2 would do you well.
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I'd jump straight for Powersoft T series amps. Plenty of grunt, lovely DSP, 1U. What's not to like?

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote bob4 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 May 2020 at 9:21am
how close are the neighbours? LOL

would be annoying to drop a few grand on amps just to get shut down after half an hour...... maybe a 5.1 or higher channel home theater receiver with discrete inputs would indeed be the way to go first. And a DSP of course....
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Originally posted by Chris Grimshaw Chris Grimshaw wrote:

I'd jump straight for Powersoft T series amps. Plenty of grunt, lovely DSP, 1U. What's not to like?

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Anything from Powersoft (except their K series, K10, K20) is a joke-ware in terms of power level, delivering real SPL.

Same *sad trajectory* just like current cars, downgrading from reliable & well working 6 cylinders engines >> down to 3 or less..
!But have nice large displays inside :-DDD
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Have a look at Dynacord L-FD DSP series. I have a couple of Them, and they are doing great. Yes they are a bit Heavy.. But you get alot for your money.
IMO you get a much better product than with many other brands doing mid level amps.

You dont get as many hollow watts as in Berry, PKN, and other shiney brands, but you get what it says on the box 🙂

I have been driving 4x Turbosound TSW718 on a L3600FD DSP for some time now. 2ohm stable and doing it for 7-9 hours straight again and again. 
Really good working setup with a very acceptable price tag.

The L2800FD DSP is great on mid/hi duty. It lacks a little bit of grunt for the low-end, but it shines when given some 15“ Horns to Play with. Very very good control and a crisp thump :)
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Well, U.Viktor, my direct experience with the T-series says different.

They're not designed for welding, and if you try to measure them in the same way as Macrotechs, then they probably won't do so well.
They are designed for music, with transients.

If you listen to full-power test tones for hours on end, then I'm happy to agree that these are not the amplifiers for you. If, however, you listen to music, then I'm certain they'll do the job very well.

FWIW, the DSP on the T-series is lovely. FIR processing, limiting that looks at how much power the speakers are soaking up, options to change the output impedance to compensate for long cables, software management etc etc.

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Even the K series have not designed for welding..
I just say that Powersoft dropped the ball and specify its newer amplifiers with very narrow duty cycles,
not even 8:32 (1KHz) which is somewhat standard and means that the can do at least 250W continuous from the rated 1000W for example.
I would say that there are frequent applications, fatter speakers and signals amplified when even 8:32 capability is weak.. and if your amp can do something like 4:64.. that is definetly *NOT enough*

When you have no power, DSP will not help




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Thanks for the replies guys I managed to get hold of a FFA-6004 G2 cheers.
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U Viktor, what is this 8:32 and 4: 64 business?

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One of the ways of measuring amplifiers is with burst signals. 8ms on, 32ms off, etc.

It can be a fairly useful way of seeing how much power amplifiers will deliver for a fairly short time, like a snare or kick drum hit.

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