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    Posted: 28 October 2018 at 12:43pm
I’ve just picked up a pair of a babymax subwoofers with 18” Ohm drivers (800W 8ohm).

Can anyone recommend an inexpensive (up to £500), reliable amplifier to power them?
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Proline 3000. Used around £300, brand new £550

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Thanks for the recommendation. I had looked at them and it is a possibility but ideally I was hoping for something a bit lighter because after I’ve flightcased it I’d be looking at something weighing almost 60kg and I need to be able to get this up and down stairs. 

Are there any class D amps that would do a job or are they no good for subs?
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These "proline" things maybe cheap but do not even reach the minimum entry of professional category.
They are not even good to drive subs, no true damping, lack of pulse and phase coherence (inability to drive arrays in defined manner of phase) also performance vary by line changes.
Powersoft K series are good, PKN XD or XE amps too. Others are not so..
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Originally posted by U.Viktor U.Viktor wrote:

These "proline" things maybe cheap but do not even reach the minimum entry of professional category.
They are not even good to drive subs, no true damping, lack of pulse and phase coherence (inability to drive arrays in defined manner of phase) also performance vary by line changes.
Powersoft K series are good, PKN XD or XE amps too. Others are not so..
Thats the thing about this forum: Or people recommend the cheapest few hundred bucks stuff that is barely professional or it goes straight to multi thousand dollars powersoft/pkn/xta/mc2 LOL

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I don't think that's fair. People have recommended low range inuke and it's replacement, ive suggested mid range class d  stuff from blue aran which were discussed at length, and  also the ones on sound gear from Timebomb.  Can't vouch for their quality as I've not heard them but they were suggested. 

The forum bashing is getting dull. 


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Originally posted by U.Viktor U.Viktor wrote:

These "proline" things maybe cheap but do not even reach the minimum entry of professional category.
They are not even good to drive subs, no true damping, lack of pulse and phase coherence (inability to drive arrays in defined manner of phase) also performance vary by line changes.
Powersoft K series are good, PKN XD or XE amps too. Others are not so..

Don't see anyone getting hold of a true proffesional grade amp for under £500... Prolines can most definitely drive subs and are renound being on of the best budget sub amps about. I run two Es18s from mine at the moment and it thumps the hell out of them. Of course K Series and PKN are better but once again I can't see anyone getting an amp of that calibre for the price range in question.
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Good options do exist below the price point of the high end amps, some dont cost a huge amount more than the prolines...

There are new higher power 2 channel versions of the class D Saturn amps available now, 2 x 3600W@4ohms and a 2 x 4200W@4 ohms model, i have been testing the 4 channel version and it can certainly drive subs.  Will update the website later today.      
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I'd certainly be interested in finding out more about a 4 channel amp that could run a pair of subs and a pair of tops.

Which website will you be updating Timebomb? The Soundgear one?
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If I have a pair of subs that are 800W 8ohms and a pair of low mid boxes that are 500W 8ohms... would it be possible to run them all from a 4 channel amp or would I need to run these off two separate amps?

Would the Saturn 10 amp be too powerful for the 500W drivers or would that not be an issue?
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Yes you can do that no problem, the 4 channels are all independent, they do not have to run the same frequency band.  I have customers that run bass on ch1 and ch2, low mid on ch3 and mid high on ch4 and it works well.

The Saturn 10 has adjustable VPL limiters on the back so you can limit power when running smaller cabinets, if you have any questions feel free to drop me an email james at soundgear.co.uk ,  i will update the soundgear website with prices for the new models shortly.


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Thanks, I will take you up on that.

Just been doing some research and if the subs I’ve agreed to buy have Ohm TRS18 drivers in they will probably only be 500W too so I won’t need the amp to be as powerful as I thought.
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