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scottyb
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Posted: 28 February 2020 at 6:34pm |
planning to build a small rig that consists of 2x186 horns loaded with 2 fane colossus 18xb drivers
2x15" inch bins(not sure on drivers) and a !2" ported reflex can anyone recommend me an amplifier for this type of setup(also a crossover and what a cross over is used for, i've spent a few hours now looking but still can't find what these do?)
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Robbo
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Fane Colossus 18XB is completely the wrong driver for a tight horn loaded cabinet--They are designed to be used in a ported direct radiating type of sub so should never be used in either 1850 or 186 design of cabinets.
You really need to either rethink what driver to use or change your choice of cabinet as the cones will disintegrate if used wrongly. |
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scottyb
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ahahaha well you just saved me a lot of money, first rig i've ever built and im 17 so i have not got lots of money or knowledge or help even, i've been told the 18xb would work in a hog scoop/super scoop is this correct?
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cravings
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do you already have the drivers?
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scottyb
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Not yet, picking them up tomorrow
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Noyzmunky
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A large vented box works wonders for these drivers. they are precise and musical, they just need enough space to breathe (400liters maybe, in a strong box). Not sure about scoops as they are rear horns but I would think they would do better than in a horn. If you have £1500 spare Ken hughes is selling 4x beautiful bins loaded with these.... I am tempted myself...
If you want to play techno go with horns and skip the drivers on elsewhere, if its bass music (D&B dub reggae etc) then relfex or scoops will suffice. As far as amps go, you're 17 so you're skint. Take a look at the Behringer NX4-6000 or the NX6000 or NX3000 on Thomann.de. (or if you have a bit more to spend maybe consider the T.amp offerings from Thomann, they're supposed to be decent)The 4 channel amp will run your tops and kick bins, or your full range and a pair of subs, very useful for the money and saves space. I recently got one Bstock for 275 delivered. The 6000 and 3000 come in a Dsp (digital sound processing) form as well so you can combine a crossover into the amps. An active crossover (what you need) is basically a way for you to split the music into BASS/MID/TOP and send these separate signals to the amps that drive the speakers responsible for these frequencies. It means you can control the music with precision and your amps and drivers only work on what you want them to. saves power for better output and a host of other benefits. many of the new digital amps have this built in. this saves rack space and the need for more power cables. I recently decide to stick with my old digital signalling rather than go onboard because I like my kit, but it's all going onboard now.. If you have more cash you can look at the JAM series from bluearan.co.uk. I have been pointed toward them and the stats for the cash look really good. |
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Dub Specialist Sound
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bro xbs have been used in scoops for over 30years man....yes we know it not a folded horn driver, but work in scoop rear folded horn, without the compression that ffh with give it ..imho
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scottyb
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sadly i don't have 1.5k to spare with working 16hours a week while at college lol, But i will mostly be playing reggae,jungle/drum and bass and maybe a tad of hardcore. so is it worth going with scoops? i will have a look at them amps you have recommended pay day next week so that is where all my money is going. thanks for the help!
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scottyb
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also would like to add would this crossover be good https://www.thomann.de/gb/the_tracks_ds_24.htm,
the t.racks ds 2/4, i spoke to the person who designed the cubo series of speakers thinking a few of them would run a party and he said that cross over would be good to power 4.
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scottyb
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just seen some one is selling
Behringer DCX2496 Ultradrive Pro cross over on a facebook rig resale group, think im going to purchase. |
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Elliot Thompson
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You are supposed to be spending as little as possible due to being 17. ceharden is offering a free box in which will cut the cost of building a box Behringer Inuke Amplifiers will give you all the necessary requirements (On board DSP and respectable power) to get the job done. You are supposed to be moving about with seasoned sound men. They always have old equipment that they no longer use. If they take a liking to you, they will just give it to you free. Even if they don't give it to you free, they will give you a real low price due to you being an up and coming sound man. As time goes by, you upgrade. You have a lot of time to create an ideal sound system once you complete school and use your degree to attain a well paying job. Best Regards,
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scottyb
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wish i could get to Southampton to collect it just live to a little to far and have no way of reaching it, which is annoying. no one from my area in my age group is remotely interested in sound/music like i am, would be a lot cheaper splitting the bill with someone while i learn more stuff but that is not the case. but thank you for linking me cabinet i appropriate the help that i am getting from all of you
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