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Originally posted by Jack_The_Ripper Jack_The_Ripper wrote:

Would you say the Proline 3000 are the most reliable Chinese high power sub amps? I know SAE do CA20 but they're more than £600 each including shipping. 


If you want reliability, you need to pay for it.

Despite what FB muppets say, Proline 3000 will eventually die, if you play it on sub, at 4 ohm stereo, with 2x 1kw drivers per channel.

Cheapest sub amp, I hear is reliable, is the SAE PCM thingy Paulus uses.

Don't buy expensive 1KW 18" sub drivers, then cheap out on sub amp..

False Economy.


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The hype around prolines is a dangerous thing - I got sucked in - tried to be as careful as could be - blew 4 1850's - could have bought an inf8 for the price of the recones - never again
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Any idea on price of the PCM series? I'll be honest i'm quite poor so I don't want to skimp on sub amps I just can't afford a very decent quality pair amps it's that simple. 
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Originally posted by Jack_The_Ripper Jack_The_Ripper wrote:

Any idea on price of the PCM series? I'll be honest i'm quite poor so I don't want to skimp on sub amps I just can't afford a very decent quality pair amps it's that simple. 

What cabs are you using with which drivers? that will help in advising on the amp.

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As far as I know the PROLINE 3000 is not made by Naphon but by Deton. The most reliable of the Naphon's are the MA series in fact they have outlived the berry's and yes they are heavy 
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Originally posted by bruce@bluff bruce@bluff wrote:

As far as I know the PROLINE 3000 is not made by Naphon but by Deton. The most reliable of the Naphon's are the MA series in fact they have outlived the berry's and yes they are heavy 


Indeed Proline 3000 is made by Deton, I got the circuit schematics from Deton years ago..

Naphon's in question had their time..

Void Inf8MK2, Powersoft K20, X4, X8 are all the rage now..

If you have 4 ohm drivers, and decent mains supply in venues, Crest 9001, worth a play, 2x drivers per side.

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True, but with exchange rate of 20 South African Rand   to 1GBP Dead  
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My subs are dual 18" RCF L18P300 loaded EV QRX218 custom copies powered by a Proline 3000 each (which i've seen on the internet has been bench tested to output about 1,900 rms per channel 4 ohms) but i'm worried they aren't gonna be long time reliable so I asked about Naphon. 

I know if I had the money i'd go for two Crest CA18 but I just can't afford them decent condition ones sell for a minimum of about £900 each used. The most I can afford is about £600 per amp I just in no way can afford more than that and due to me being on disability benefits I can only afford to buy one and then save up some more later on and buy another. I'm trying to start my own business and start doing discos and maybe give people the clu kind of experience for their birthdays etc...But as i'm finding out only foreign nationals are given help to start a business, i've asked  four times in the past 10 years and been told by the DWP and job centres they wouldn't even consider it. So i'm trying to do all this on my little amount of money. 


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Are you running each proline in 4ohm bridge?
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Originally posted by rosssss224 rosssss224 wrote:

Are you running each proline in 4ohm bridge?

No but if the Prolines definately won't last years and years and years I might have to g
et rid of the ones i've got and buy four used QSC RMX2450, EV P2000 or maybe two more QSC RMX4050HD and bridge them into 4 ohms. I already have two RMX4050HD that are in absolutely mint condition that I used one for my dj montors and one for my mid/highs. 
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Originally posted by Jack_The_Ripper Jack_The_Ripper wrote:

powered by a Proline 3000 each (which i've seen on the internet has been bench tested to output about 1,900 rms per channel 4 ohms)


That test was at 80hz, which I've said on FB many times.

Thomann tested the amp, and quoted figured of 1.5kwpc.

People forget Thomann are a German company, and can be relied on somewhat.

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Originally posted by Jack_The_Ripper Jack_The_Ripper wrote:

Originally posted by rosssss224 rosssss224 wrote:

Are you running each proline in 4ohm bridge?

No but if the Prolines definately won't last years and years and years I might have to g
et rid of the ones i've got and buy four used QSC RMX2450, EV P2000 or maybe two more QSC RMX4050HD and bridge them into 4 ohms. I already have two RMX4050HD that are in absolutely mint condition that I used one for my dj montors and one for my mid/highs. 

Sounds like your replacing a fairly reliable amp with a fairly reliable amp.

Unless you go for inf8 or lightweight equivalent I wouldn't bother. Those proline will sell for £350+ in a day or so
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