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    Posted: 13 February 2020 at 5:50am
Any one here gained this or require it of others?

I've just come across it in a job spec as a 'desirable' but is it worth doing? from a look at their website it looks like its going to cost a bit but I don't know if its a common requirement in some sectors. Will I learn anything or genuinely have to be at a decent standard, or is it just like buying a certificate?
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In the States, Audio/Visual work focuses on a lot Video (Primary) setups in the corporate world. Keeping things from a Speakerplans's perspective, think of it as being a part of a commercial rave production in which, you are responsible for making sure the video screens are functioning properly at the event. How that would benefit you depends if you are fond of that type of field.  

 

If you are looking to explore such a field certifications are good to have. Not everyone who began in the Audio/Visual field is technically inclined and needs to learn standard procedures in order to adapt in the Audio/Visual world. As with every field, the Audio/Visual field has their own philosophy on how they feel things should be done. I am more than certain you will need to be OSHA certified as well.  

 

I would imagine the majority in the Sound Reinforcement field are our own bosses, focus primarily on what we know (love) and, don't find the need of an Audio/Visual certification due to lack of interest of Video setups.  

 

 

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Yes, I'm much more of a 'visual' persuasion than an 'audio' one.

I've never seen this certification on a job spec before, or had anyone applying for a job list it on their CV. It seems its fairly uncommon here.
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What you can do is explore your local Union to see if such a certification would be meaningful in the Audio/Visual field in your area. 

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We don't have unions in the AV industry in the same way you do in the US (as I understand it).
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Originally posted by imageoven imageoven wrote:

We don't have unions in the AV industry in the same way you do in the US (as I understand it).


What about from an Electrician Standpoint? In the States, Licensed Electricians that are in Unions also do Audio/Visual work as they have the qualifications merge into that field. However, it does not mean an Audio/Visual person has the credentials be classed as a Licensed Electrician.


The only reason I am mentioning this, is for you to get a non-bias opinion from someone who actually does Audio/Visual work if, such a certification is worth it or not.


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In my experience, a lot of these "qualifications" are fairly bogus, and are a hurdle to keep riff-raff off of the approved vendor's list.

Shure are trying it on with their various "courses" which qualify you to be allowed to sell stuff. MX goose neck mic range now needs a course pass to sell!! https://www.shure.com/en-GB/support/shure-audio-institute/certification

When they brought out there ceiling tile dsp array mic, I had a customer with immediate benefit from its potential. Popped along to Shure UK (I drive past it every day on way to work!) to have a play. Was told I would need to go on the course in order to sell it. I looked at the GUI and said if it had been authored correctly, I shouldn't need to do much other than look at spec sheet and skim the manual. Jumped on the laptop, and was forming lobes of pick-up pretty quickly, and then asked why it needed a course? Sheepish Silence...

I had to get Alcumus "SaferContractor" accredited to work for one particular client. Almost verging on Blackmail if you squint hard. "In order to work for us, you have to pay £400 to these people, who will verify if your safe to work on our sites" The fact that the client gets a kick-back from the accreditation body goes without saying!! Putting money in a brown envelope and passing it to a potential client, is normally illegal in most territories - In the UK, we have a flourishing series of business doing it, and keeping a load of money for themselves in the process!!

Re sparks and qualifications - that is messy. BS7671 says that to "design or test" you need to be "skilled". To slap it in, you can be anyone, but to work out what to put in, or check what has been put in, needs competence. The easiest way to demonstrate competence is by having a piece of paper that says you have passed some threshold of demonstrable skill.

Again, "competition" has led to some appalling certification companies, running cheap but worthless courses. "Yesterday, I couldn't even spell electrizun, and today, now I is one" type shite.

Unions are quite different. Usually there is only a few unions for any particular trade, and they tend to offer differences in idealogy as much as price. However they tend to try and get more members through success - "Join us and we will get you £XX per hour". Unions in the UK are really quite weak, and have been quite broken down over he last 30 years. These days, in the UK, they tend to exist to help enforce the law, as opposed to stand up to government or big employers, for example with H&S or harassment advice, rather than bargaining for improved T&Cs and pay rises.

Back to OP. I think this line sums up the CTS Avixa qualification:

Quote Certification is not a guarantee for performance by certified individuals.
- at bottom of this page:https://www.avixa.org/training-certification/certification/CTS

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Strange that I mentioned Shure UK, on looking at there speil on there training, it should be noted that "Shure is proud to be an AVIXA Education sponsor"...
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Originally posted by imageoven imageoven wrote:

We don't have unions in the AV industry in the same way you do in the US (as I understand it).


Prospect is the UK union that has most members in these industries - BECTU merged into it a few years ago. but yeah, there's probably better places to get advice on qualifications than from your union.
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Unions seem to carry quite a lot of weight in UK Universities still, for better and worse
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Originally posted by MattStolton MattStolton wrote:

Strange that I mentioned Shure UK, on looking at there speil on there training, it should be noted that "Shure is proud to be an AVIXA Education sponsor"...


And Audinate/Dante's training is also Avixa.

Heck I'm now "Dante Certification Level 2" qualified. Had a quiet 30 mins. 2 CTS RU, just another 28 to go over 3 years, so I could pay them some money and keep a CTS after my name.

Hadn't spotted it, but Avixa is the rebrand of Infocomm, and all that training and accreditation jazz.

There is want by management-by-numbers types to employ qualified people. People want to be employed, so they get bits of paper to say they are qualified. Sadly pieces of paper don't show experience or competence. But you can buy pieces of paper...

That said, I have a MInstSCE after my name, but that only costs me £95 a year!! Mostly for access to their ECS CIS card, but I quite like how much they are into 100V line; but they are able to "accredit", i.e. bestow "qualifications". And Ros can be very persuasive...
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