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    Posted: 14 March 2011 at 10:33pm
Hi everybody !
I'm totally new on this forum where i learn so much !

I've made 4 X1 and two MT-130 (http://hornplans.free.fr/mt130.html),
and I'm looking for the best suitable kick bins to put between those cabs.
HD15 or MTH-30 ?
The MTH-30 looks easier to build and less expensive too..
How many of them ? (2 seems to me good)

By the way, I mainly play Bass music : Dub, Dubstep, D'n'B, and some deep techno/house too.

I plan to X over that way :
- X1 : 30 to 70 hz
- kick bin : 70 to about 150 hz

What do you think ?
Any phase and delay issues ?

Thanks very much
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my vote is for the hd15 its easy to build too a pair u used on more than 1.5 sheet of ply wood ...an the kappa pro lf dont cost too much eighter... my 2 cent
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+1 on HD-15 (with PD154)

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Originally posted by t.geessounds t.geessounds wrote:

my vote is for the hd15 its easy to build too a pair u used on more than 1.5 sheet of ply wood ...an the kappa pro lf dont cost too much eighter... my 2 cent


imho dont think hd15 has enough spl in 65-80hz region for dub/dnb

es18 does it perfectly but big and heavy
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other alternative: http://hornplans.free.fr/mkh230.html
higher sensitivity than HD15/HD215
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I'm looking for something quite compact like the MTH-30, and easy to build..
Does anyone know this cab ?
http://hornplans.free.fr/mth30.html

What do you think about USB ?

The MKH-230 looks great too !

Thanks for advices !
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could i just ask what crossover are you using?
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Electrovoice DC-ONE

X1 : 30 - 70/80 hz
kick : 70/80 - 140/200 hz
HMid : 140/200 - 1000/1500 hz

Any advice for the Xover points ?
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no sorry, i am in the same situation as you apart from i have a g sub and am making two x1's and possibly two hd15's.
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IMO, it might not be good to mix two different style of subs,
go for either G subs or X1 but not both.

I'm really looking for good kicks that reach 70 hz easily..
MTH-30 ?
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do hd 15's not hit the 70 hz easily? sorry dont know anyone who has built mth 30 or heard them. 

why dont you just run the x1's up to 80 - 100 hz? 
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and any reasons for not mixing g sub with x1's?
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