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Originally posted by ArthurG ArthurG wrote:

oooh and don't dream too much, "punchy, fast, accurate ,Deep bass" is very difficult to get with a single box. It's always a compromise between punch and deep....


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Ok i see.
 
Any advice regarding the port depth.
 
Like the rule of thump regarding the depth and the sound..Like if the port its too Deep it will sound slow, and if it is too short it will sound too boomey
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Elliot Thompson Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 May 2014 at 2:46pm

Originally posted by Zebulba1 Zebulba1 wrote:


Ok i see.
 
Any advice regarding the port depth.
 
Like the rule of thump regarding the depth and the sound..Like if the port its too Deep it will sound slow, and if it is too short it will sound too boomey


The length of the port is based on the tuning frequency. What you are mentioning has nothing to do with the depth of the port. For what you are aiming for, you would have better options with fifteen-inch drivers, as you are not looking to achieve a very low response.

If you have your heart set on eighteen-inch drivers, just build the G Sub and use the FANE 18 XB. The G Sub was designed for that driver.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Zebulba1 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 May 2014 at 8:15pm
Ok.
 
G-sub is unfortnally not an option, since im only myself to carry the speakers.
 
What ment ragarding the "rule og thump on the port length" was if there was some kind of coheasion between the port length and the sound it makes.
 
Im not thinking tuning and port turbolens-wise. More like sound quality wise.
 
Like if a short port made a certan kind of sound, and a long port another sound.
 
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Originally posted by Zebulba1 Zebulba1 wrote:


Ok.
 
G-sub is unfortnally not an option, since im only myself to carry the speakers.
 
What ment ragarding the "rule og thump on the port length" was if there was some kind of coheasion between the port length and the sound it makes.
 
Im not thinking tuning and port turbolens-wise. More like sound quality wise.
 
Like if a short port made a certan kind of sound, and a long port another sound.
 
Brg.



I don’t know who is filling your head with this nonsense but, I would strongly suggest you stopping listening to him/her.

If the G Sub is too big then just cut them in half. Surely, you can carry half a G Sub?

Nevertheless, I think it is time for you to start learning the basics


http://www.danmarx.org/audioinnovation/theories.html


http://www.linearteam.dk/default.aspx?pageid=winisd


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Also the Fane Sovereign 18-800 sims very well in a 140 - 160 litre cab.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Zebulba1 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 May 2014 at 10:13pm
Hi.
 
No one fills me head with nonsens (other than meself).
 
It was just a thought i had...sorry if it was silly.
 
I guess better safe than sorry...and now i know, so thanx.
 
And also thanx for the learning links. ill get to it right away.
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Originally posted by levyte357- levyte357- wrote:

Originally posted by ArthurG ArthurG wrote:

oooh and don't dream too much, "punchy, fast, accurate ,Deep bass" is very difficult to get with a single box. It's always a compromise between punch and deep....


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And no problem to carry half a g-sub btw.
 
Allredy read the link regarding design theroy, and i use bass box 6 pro to sim.
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What T/S tell you that a driver works in a small or in a large vented enclosure?I want to build a 155 liter box tunned to 40 hz with an 18 inch and want to double check if it works.Simulations say so.
F3@45 hz,I have to say decent for such a small enclosure.


Qes 0.3
Qms 13.6 
Qts 0.3
Vas 369.4 liters
Fs 30 hz
X-max 9.25 mm



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Originally posted by Foca_Dacian Foca_Dacian wrote:

What T/S tell you that a driver works in a small or in a large vented enclosure?I want to build a 155 liter box tunned to 40 hz with an 18 inch and want to double check if it works.Simulations say so.
F3@45 hz,I have to say decent for such a small enclosure.
Qes 0.3
Qms 13.6 
Qts 0.3
Vas 369.4 liters
Fs 30 hz
X-max 9.25 mm

It's an interaction between several, so it's best to model to be sure.
 
As a very rough rule of thumb:
 
If Qts is 0.4, then the driver will achieve a flat response with F3 = Fs in a box equal to Vas.
If Qts is lower, then it will want a box less than Vas to stay flat, but F3 will be higher than Fs, as you've already found.
If Qts is higher than 0.4, you may need a box larger than Vas to stop it pushing the response up in a hump about half an octave above tuning.
 
HTH,
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