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I have the prototype and 186's, I'll try them at some point soon...
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Plots plots plots :)
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here are some plots, I used the input parameters from darkmatter:
input screen:

black is void v18-1000 and grey is pd186, (the fane 1000 is the same as v18-1000, at least i don't see any difference between the two)

all drivers do reach xmax at 42 hz with 1000w, so anything above 42 hz under 1000w should be fine.


Edited by djyves - 14 June 2010 at 3:32pm
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Originally posted by djyves djyves wrote:

, the fane 1000 is the same as v18-1000, at least i don't see any difference between the two)


really?????

theyre fairly different drivers

i was potentially planning 4 of these with the fane 1000
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to me HR isn't good to predict this cab response.

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Originally posted by darkmatter darkmatter wrote:

I wonder whether underhung coils (XBL^2?) would get the most from tapped horns?


I'm not sure if I read your thought in parenthesis correctly, but XBL^2 isn't underhung, since it has multiple gaps

http://www.acousticdev.com/Files/XBLDetails.pdf

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Originally posted by Saul Saul wrote:

Originally posted by djyves djyves wrote:

, the fane 1000 is the same as v18-1000, at least i don't see any difference between the two)


really?????

theyre fairly different drivers

i was potentially planning 4 of these with the fane 1000

I mean, I don't see an difference in the graph, but I will try again.


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here is a good graph of the fane 1000 vs void v18-1000:

the fane 1000 has a higher excursion around 60 hz, they both reach xmax with 1000w 41 hz


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black is fane 1000,
grey is v18-1000
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at +/- 40 and 60hz the fane 1000 goes over xmax
the v18-1000 does not go over xmax at 60 hz
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akabak sim with b&c 18tbx100, eleven section, I take care of magnet diameter in order to reduce the 10th section.

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my be ? recalculated 1x12" ? 2x12" ?
horns plans http://photofile.ru/users/tda-audio/
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