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    Posted: 16 April 2018 at 2:29pm
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looking into buying an amp/s to power 4 hogs loaded with PD1850s and 4 HD15's loaded with PD154's aswell as 2 mt102s. what are some reccomendations for budget amps that would run this setup? also, as far as biamping is concerned, would i attempt to run the four hogs and four hd's together on one amp as the bass and kickbass section or is there a better way to do it ?
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I'd run something like bridged T.Amp E-800's on each cab separately, or if you're careful and know what you're doing you could get away with running 2 using one. They have some switch-off issues at low volumes though.

Anyway, you'd probably need a crossover before the amps to split the signal.
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Originally posted by efinque efinque wrote:

I'd run something like bridged T.Amp E-800's on each cab separately, or if you're careful and know what you're doing you could get away with running 2 using one. They have some switch-off issues at low volumes though.

Anyway, you'd probably need a crossover before the amps to split the signal.

A bridged e-800 will deliver about 880watts, and you would need 8 for the sub/bass section alone so that would be nearly £1100!!.... and it would still be underpowered. The minimum load when bridged is 8R for this amp, so one driver per amp.

Something like an inuke NU6000 would be a better budget bet.......

An Inuke NU6000 will give 1100 watts RMS at 8R or 2200Watts RMS @ 4R per channel so you could drive 2 cabs per channel.
The inuke Nu6000 is about £325 for the non-DSP version and you would only need 2 for the 8 bass cabs.
The NU6000DSP is about £45.00 more and would save having separate crossover/DSP's, so for 2 non-DSP NU6000 it would cost about £650 and with the DSP version it'll cost about £745.

OK not the best amps in the world but would be a fair bang for your buck… the OP did state budget, and they WOULD provide the drivers with sufficient power (just… @ 1.375 x the total loads RMS per channel) unlike the E-800.

The hogs and HD's would need separate amps channels as they require different processing.

You would still need to power the MT102's, the power requirement would be dependent upon the drivers fitted.





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Originally posted by APW APW wrote:

A bridged e-800 will deliver about 880watts, and you would need 8 for the sub/bass section alone so that would be nearly £1100!!.... and it would still be underpowered. The minimum load when bridged is 8R for this amp, so one driver per amp.


Something like an inuke NU6000 would be a better budget bet.......

An Inuke NU6000 will give 1100 watts RMS at 8R or 2200Watts RMS @ 4R per channel so you could drive 2 cabs per channel.
The inuke Nu6000 is about £325 for the non-DSP version and you would only need 2 for the 8 bass cabs.
The NU6000DSP is about £45.00 more and would save having separate crossover/DSP's, so for 2 non-DSP NU6000 it would cost about £650 and with the DSP version it'll cost about £745.

OK not the best amps in the world but would be a fair bang for your buck… the OP did state budget, and they WOULD provide the drivers with sufficient power (just… @ 1.375 x the total loads RMS per channel) unlike the E-800.

The hogs and HD's would need separate amps channels as they require different processing.

You would still need to power the MT102's, the power requirement would be dependent upon the drivers fitted.


Well, there's the QSC line of amps but they're pricey and some of them (if I remember correctly GX3 and 5) cannot be bridged.

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Originally posted by efinque efinque wrote:

Well, there's the QSC line of amps but they're pricey and some of them (if I remember correctly GX3 and 5) cannot be bridged.



The GX7 (the largest amp in the QSC GX range) is less than half the power of the Inuke and for what it (the GX7) costs you can almost purchase two Inukes.

Another contender is possibly one of the Blue Aran Jam multi-channel amps…. Or even decent 2nd hand amps.




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2 inuke 6000 to power the hogs properly 1 inuke 6000 to power all hd's and 1 inuke nu 6000 for the mt's  Big smile
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For £700 you can buy a jam systems q10. Still a budget amp but probably a little bit better than a INuke. 4channels at 2500watt a channel. Though blue Aran tested at 2200 per Channel. I’ve ran 8 pd loaded hogs off it all night long. 
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Originally posted by jammin75 jammin75 wrote:

2 inuke 6000 to power the hogs properly

how come you need 2 inukes to run them "properly"? surely you could use just one and have 2 per channel?
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You don't need two iNuke6000's to power 4 hogs, it's just a belt and braces solution for if you really want a no-compromises option to drive your speakers right up to breaking point.

There's nothing to be gained by taking that option unless you've already tried powering them with one (that'll put 1100w into each bin - plenty) and actually found that to be in any way lacking for your requirements.


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Originally posted by junoprobelaunch junoprobelaunch wrote:

Originally posted by jammin75 jammin75 wrote:

2 inuke 6000 to power the hogs properly

how come you need 2 inukes to run them "properly"? surely you could use just one and have 2 per channel?

.... it depends what program material is being played.
The power an inuke will produce when playing into a 4ohm load on each channel is exactly the same at two inukes playing into an 8 ohm load on each of the 4 channels, however when playing a sustained low frequency note that is present in some genres of music the inuke could trip out on 4ohm loads due to the amps PSU limiting the current drawn from the mains, two inukes with 8 ohm loads won’t suffer from nuisance tripping.


 
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Originally posted by junoprobelaunch junoprobelaunch wrote:

Originally posted by jammin75 jammin75 wrote:

2 inuke 6000 to power the hogs properly

how come you need 2 inukes to run them "properly"? surely you could use just one and have 2 per channel?


i have been usin an inuke 6000dsp since 2014  been out a lot of times i know wot the amp is capable off it will power 2 1850 loaded scoops no worries have dun this myself it wont power 2 per channel properly no way not sayin it wont make sum decent spl but will run out of steam trust me Big smile
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i have been usin an inuke 6000dsp since 2014  been out a lot of times i know wot the amp is capable off it will power 2 1850 loaded scoops no worries have dun this myself it wont power 2 per channel properly no way not sayin it wont make sum decent spl but will run out of steam trust me Big smile
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Been wondering about this.  Have you used it on non Dubby (for want of better description) music at 4r?  House, Techno, Rock, Pop? 

Reason for asking is because if two are definitely wanted that's nearly 700 quid which is used T5n or big QSC/Crown territory
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