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Onwundinjo
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Hi,
Me and my friends want to build a system. Typically playing reggae, dub, drum and bass, garage and hip hop. We would start small and plan on upgrading or as we go along. I don't where to start in terms of choosing a speaker design or the specific drivers. Excited for your help! Can't wait to have it built and send the pics in once it's done!
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al_x
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For those genres i would say scoops for bass. Check out the scoop forum on here to learn alot.
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Bams
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The question is a bit broad... are you planning to use it in a field for 50 friends or in a pub for 100 paying visitors .. both small but a completely different approach. Budget is almost more important, building from scratch means a rather large investment.
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DNbshaggy
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Look at some pics think what you like asthetically from them then listen to those sounds and see what sounds best to you
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bin juice24
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How much space do you have? What tools? How much to spend?
I’m new to it all but these are all certainly considerations.
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Onwundinjo
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Awesome! Thanks guys for your feedback! Didn't expect to get so many responses.
Been thinking about your questions for the last couple of days. Looking to play in pubs / warehouses / outdoors for 100+ people. In terms of budget I would say that we would be prepared to spend a £10,000 for the full project. I am a big fan of channel one soundsystem and would like to build something similar in terms of the style. I will be taking carpentry courses to give the skills to build the boxes and will be renting out a warehouse spaces to build the boxes where they will have machinery to help us build the boxes. So been thinking of initially starting with two 18" scoops https://www.speakerplans.com/index.php?id=18superscooper - https://www.speakerplans.com/index.php?id=18superscooper Then a g sub to sit on top of the two scoops https://www.speakerplans.com/index.php?id=gsub - https://www.speakerplans.com/index.php?id=gsub And One of these to sit on top of the G subs https://www.speakerplans.com/index.php?id=mt122 - https://www.speakerplans.com/index.php?id=mt122 From here I will take a look a must read section on the blog and a further read of the scoop forum. But keen to hear what your thoughts are on the rough outline far. |
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Jo bg
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Go for scoops if you want that vibe. Be careful to choose a design with proper drivers available and don't stick random 18s in it. Plenty to read in the scoop forum. Reflex midbass is a solid choice but maybe I would choose a more updated design than G sub, something built around modern drivers, check also loudspeaker producers suggested designs. Channel One uses hornloaded midbass instead, you could look into hd15 or es18 for some trusted options. Instead of one mt122 I would build 2 mt121 - as I did - better dispersiin, plenty loud even above 4 subwoofers, just choose a good 1.4 or 2 inch compression driver. Look also at smt112, visually similar but easier to build, and with good drivers still very loud.
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Noyzmunky
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If you want to 'build it' then get ready with 5-6k for wood, drivers and all the other little bits that add up to '000, then amps and cabling etc etc etc…
Honestly that's only an option if you're loaded, really want to actually build speakers rather than use them and have lots of time (we all got that right now) The reality is that many many sound companies are going to be selling off a hell of a lot of kit over the next month or two, great quality pro audio at steal prices... Not to put too fine a point on it you just hit what's likely to be the biggest shake up in Pro audio provision in the UK....ever. Get your cash ready, decide what you're looking for and be ready to travel for it. you could quite easily build a 25k rig for 5k in the next couple of months. I would go for X1's or some really well made reflex over scoops, scoops are very over rated imho. Out of phase, distorted, they play one sound ok'ish... if you like that kinda sound ok.. They are ubiquitous to a particular scene but ...meh. There are louder, cleaner sounding bins that play dub music well and will give you a bit of individuality and you'll spank many scoop rigs in head to heads.. |
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my name is Inigo Montoya...you killed my father, prepare to die!.
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Digbethdave
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Digbethdave
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Just build gsubs.
Or buy something pro.
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odc04r
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If I hadn't learned to drive, I wouldn't be looking to put down £10k on a car straight away. Just something to consider! If you are serious, the trick is to take a gradual and modular approach where you can build a system by either starting with less cabs and adding more as time goes on, e.g. doubling of one stack to two. Or perhaps start with less frequency bands, and add more as time goes on. Of the two suggestions, the first is probably more sensible. Also you may just want to buy decent second hand kit to kick off, learning the tricks and tips of building your own is perhaps best done in parallel with learning how to set up and engineer something that has already been proven. That's the complete opposite of what I did 20 years ago of course, but then there wasn't the availability of decent used equipment that there is now. |
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Onwundinjo
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I hear ya! Not gonna drop 10k in one go. Will take a modular approach with something that I can duplicate / quadruple . Over the years hopefully get where we want to
Just moved to Spain recently and there are woodwork shops where they provide the wood ect and machinery so hopefully that will save some wood costs. We have some friends here that have a rig set up, so will go and check it out and see how they engineer it and set it up.
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