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    Posted: 21 March 2009 at 6:02pm
Seems like everywhere I look someone is saying "or you could load em with THESE!" (enter link to Ciare 18SW)

They look like TONS of fun with the enormously high Xmax and BL factors but are they worth the extra money with the sad Freq curve and the somewhat low sencitivity? Are there any corresponding HR models up that my searches missed? I'm building 4x 186 horns and plan another 4x soon after. Would these be a viable copliment or eventual replacement to the 18sound 1400's ive got? I Definately like the fact they're avalible in 4ohm as this would allow my QSC RMX4050HD's (or any similar quality amp as I understand) to push TWICE as many cabs with similar levels but at an inflated cost of about 25% per driver.

Is the Ciare 18SW the new ground pounder, or an Italian twist on the Kilomax tit?
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What price are they? No where seems to sell 'em...
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I'm doing all this on my phone and am unable to paste links but you can find em @ www.usspeaker.com seems like they're one of two or three suppliers of em in the states. Also another smaller supplier occasionally on ebay. Theyre quite expensive even for professional loudspeakers yet still less than the better JBL subs so I'd be willing to invest if it would be worth the added cost.
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got some 15sw's here im about to have a play with

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yes these are great drivers, shifts tonnes of air, infact more air than any other driver I know
 
downside is, low sensitivity, not very loud in a reflex cab, and I heard doubles
 
But like I have suggested many times before, I reckon this would be a good driver for the CV bin or something similar
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the 18.00sw driver is ciare's answer to mccauley's 6174.  but if you can get hold of the ciare, itll cost you one fifth of the price of the mccauley.   been trying to source the 18.00sw in the uk for ages.  proaudioparts are half asleep.  hoped they might be able to add 4 units to their next order of 12.00sw's, but as usual, they never get back to you when they say they will.

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also. the magnet is a hybrid ceramic/neo design.  with the pole piece being neo radial iirc.  this will explain the 36t/m bl.  id like to see a scaled up punisher style cab using this woofer...  maybe in two parts with a bolt on mouth section!
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Originally posted by rich_gale rich_gale wrote:

the 18.00sw driver is ciare's answer to mccauley's 6174.  but if you can get hold of the ciare, itll cost you one fifth of the price of the mccauley.   been trying to source the 18.00sw in the uk for ages.  proaudioparts are half asleep.  hoped they might be able to add 4 units to their next order of 12.00sw's, but as usual, they never get back to you when they say they will.
Let us if they ever get hold of them, I'd be interested to see how they perform...

I've tried modelling the ciares in hornresp and they seem to work well in larger tapped horns...
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LOL look up the 'modular horn'. We decided that was a bad idea.   The two part horn that is... Maybe a single jigantic one for permanet instalations? Maybe something like the big EAW boxes. Ohhh... A design chalenge? Game on!    

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Hey Guys!
I want to build the 1850 horn with a Eminence Omega Pro 18 Speaker!
Do you think its a good choice?

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What the hell? Watch where you are writing your messages!
And the answer: No, it is not a good choice!
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As above

No, it isn't, the 1850 is a good choice, or any of the other drivers on the recommended list!!!

READDDDD

I don't understand all these people who look at the designs and then want to use different drivers
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