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nineleaves 
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 Posted: 13 July 2011 at 3:35pm |
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Blimey, they really are keen on getting customers onboard.. Fair play to them.
Might as well go order that as the sideline option rn. |
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Jasonstry
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Posted: 14 July 2011 at 4:29pm |
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LightJockey is pretty intuitive and good for DJs since it was designed for the club environment. It is free to download, as is the extra software that allows you to use a touchscreen. The dongles aren't cheap though but, as it happens, I have one for sale....
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nineleaves
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Posted: 14 July 2011 at 4:44pm |
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Downloading it to look at, though its definately too much money at this point new.
In addition theres two versions of LJ about ..one that came out before, and another after the martin one key. on softwares, been bouncing back and forth between the windows orientated apps, probably ruled out Daslight for having some weird bugs which mean some perameters which should be arent seen by the scene generators. ..and Sunlite is a weird irrational mess, LumiDMX shows some promise however, but from there its a question of what passes the 'make it do what it should do' test. Taking another look at LJ2 now. |
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nineleaves
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Posted: 14 July 2011 at 5:07pm |
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Yeah, im not sold on Light Jockey, may well suit a die hard martin fan; but i feel many other softwares offer alot more.
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Jasonstry
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Posted: 14 July 2011 at 5:07pm |
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One problem with LJ is the limit of 100 fixtures. I have outgrown it now and moved on to MagicQ so I am a bit out of touch with developments. The LJ dongle I have for sale. It is the USB universal dongle with 2 x dmx input/outputs but pre one-key if that matters. I also have a Behringer BCF2000 which can be used as a desk with the use of Markus's FaderS software. A better solution than Martin's Fingers because of the motorised faders as much as anything else, though the price difference is substantial as well. The ChamsysPC wing I use cost me about £1500 and doesn't have motorised faders. LJ also has the visualiser which Chamsys doesn't. I would be looking for £600 for the dongle and BCF and will chuck in a touch screen monitor though there is something wrong with the monitor but I can't remember what it is. Whatever, it wasn't serious enough to persuade me to bin it so I am guessing it is usable to some extent or repairable. I would be more than happy to sort you out with some sort of sale or return deal so you could give it a go for real. I also have an Enttec dongle that allows you to output DMX from MagicQ and we could doubtless chuck that into the equation somehow so that you can compare the two systems in real world conditions. HTH.
Andy
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nineleaves
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Posted: 14 July 2011 at 5:21pm |
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Tbh id look at putting those bits up in the for sale section,
I cant see it fitting what im doing tbh... As for things like motorised faders, i have two behringer ddx3216 digi desks kicking around, very likely to map those for light controller functions; so cant see myself being in a rush to get the bcf. potential control surfaces wise, with the inclusion of other things i have here, i think ive got it covered for now. Edited by nineleaves - 14 July 2011 at 6:38pm |
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Jasonstry
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Posted: 14 July 2011 at 5:38pm |
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No worries, I think our messages got crossed so I was replying to your earlier one. I'm far from a die hard Martin fan, much the opposite but I'm curious as to what you think is wrong with LJ though.
Andy
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Posted: 14 July 2011 at 5:47pm |
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Its development cycle is clearly behind many of the current offerings out there, especially for the money. Freestyler more or less appears to offer something equivalent, complete with 3d visualisation for free.
Other new packages being evaluated cost considerably less, and offer more. And with a little patience magicq + the visualisation package they reccomend (capture polar), costs less & offers a considerably more powerful package; even if the user interface is bloody weird to adjust to. Edited by nineleaves - 14 July 2011 at 5:48pm |
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Posted: 14 July 2011 at 6:23pm |
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One thing to mention, although the MagicQ hardware seems expensive if you want to go the full fader route (~£1600+vat iirc for the PC Wing) they do come up in the right circles for ~£700-£800 (which is what I paid for mine, virtually new as it was a factory replacement for a dodgy jog wheel, including soft gig bag)
Considering that the PC wing, plus touch screen is not far off what you get in a fancy box with the MQ50, it's astonishing value for a 'proper' desk, and you could build a box to house it all if you so desired. Me, I like the fact I could travel light with it if necessary, I use an Acer 3600 clipped to the back of my touchscreen. |
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Posted: 14 July 2011 at 6:52pm |
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Magicq dongle is on its way..
Tbh not going to be in a rush to buy a load of dedicated hardware for it just yet; interesting none the less; if i can get it to talk to various items of midi controller hardware ..then great :) Sofar on the windowsey stuff it seems to have settled on nicolaudie sunsuite afterall.. its abit messy, but all the others are misconceived, broken or buggy in some amazingly retarded ways. If these are things that not only myself is coming up against, then im supprised they sell much software at all.. people must buy some of these things to put on shelfs and forget about ..or meerly use them to piss around with parcans. Will be reporting back on weather sunsuite sucessfully creates a satisfactory basic virtual show soon. Edited by nineleaves - 14 July 2011 at 6:53pm |
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Posted: 14 July 2011 at 7:07pm |
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Norty, my system is fairly similar though I paid full whack for my PCWing as I didn't have a lot of time at the, erm time. Now a Zotac Xbox on the back of a 19" touch screen monitor and PC Wing. IMHO its weakness (if you want to call it a weakness) is that there are so many ways of using it that a new user can just freeze with the number of options. Well I did anyway. If you just dive in and get on with it, it can work magic and you can always change things later. Downside is that, even after all this time I still hit Control+tab to change between windows and sit there and look stupid trying to figure out why it hasn't worked!
Some people seem to tune into it very quickly and others (including me) seem to find it a bit harder. IMHO it is, however, worth the investment of time.
Andy
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Posted: 14 July 2011 at 8:38pm |
I tend to find one way and stick with that ;) The nice thing is that there is really no 'wrong' way to use it though. It was interesting working with Matt Monkeypuzzle at a fest this year, as he uses his in quite different ways to me. Some of the ways I'll be having a go at myself, but I (think) I also passed on some of my stuff to him, which he can make use of in the future too. 'Flexible' I think is the right word. @nineleaves - you may struggle getting midi gear working with MQ. I would say that a dedicated piece of hardware is worth it, if only because it unlocks the power that is the 'Execute' window!! Take any object, from anywhere on the desk, and be able to add it to a single combined window of buttons or faders on the touchscreen! So very very powerful, and makes mapping a very complex patch into something very straightforward an absolute dream. Given how popular and 'industry standard' MagicQ is becoming, I don't think you can lose if you buy some second hand hardware, it'll always sell on because demand is high. |
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IMHO its weakness (if you want to call it a weakness) is that there are so many ways of using it that a new user can just freeze with the number of options.