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    Posted: 21 November 2011 at 3:39pm
Hey Everyone,

Debating on a kick design and right now considering both options.

Is there a noticeable difference between the HD15 and the HD215 in term of frequency response and efficiency? Sounds like the HD15 would be easier to transport.

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As an HD215 is two HD15 cabinets in a single cab, the frequency response will go very slightly lower and you should get an extra 3dB provided you have the extra power. And yes, the HD15 would be easier to transport.
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Do 2 HD15 cabs placed together like the HD215 perform the same? I would personally just build HD15s but i must admit the 215 does look pretty cool!
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A single HD15 is an awkward heavy cube with a PD154. Build HD215s, put a wheelbarrow style handle and castor set in them, and thank me later.
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I've always thought of an HD as a pretty light box.

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Originally posted by Risc_Terilia Risc_Terilia wrote:

I've always thought of an HD as a pretty light box.



Thats what i thought, its just a cube with 2 main panels and 2 small panels with a driver, it doesnt get much lighter than that for a bass cab does it?

I would go for the 215, less trips to the van with a slight increase in weight, a 215 is big enough to put wheels on which IMO is much better than lifting and carrying boxes around!
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I'm thinking about using the HDs on top of 18" Super Scoopers.

What do you guys think would be a good x over frequency for the hd215 compared to the hd15 to take advantage of the extra boost at the lower end.

This is what I'm thinking about:
0-70hz: 18" Super Scoop loaded with Fane colossus
70-160hz: HD215 with Eminence kappa


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not much point in changing the xover freq, especially if you runing them above scoops, the extra low end you get from the HD215 will be covered by the scoops anyway. Leave the crossover as it is, but you dont want to be running your drivers down to 0hz do you?
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right, I meant

30-70
70-160

Even though the super scooper can pick up the lower HD215 frequencies, I'm thinking the HD might be better at the 70-90 range and generate a harder kick. so the extra boost from the HD215 would  really be overhead.

anways, I agree that the HD215 looks cooler!


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there's not much point building loading and running a set of cabs to cover 20hz of mid bass is there?

Run the HDs up to 160 like they are supposed to, let your mid tops do the rest, nothing will be strained unless you push it and the system will sound fine. if you want slightly more kick once the system is built, use your EQ to add it in.

They will not generate a "harder kick", they will just handle more watts within a smaller freq range
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Originally posted by Tocooltom Tocooltom wrote:

there's not much point building loading and running a set of cabs to cover 20hz of mid bass is there?

Run the HDs up to 160 like they are supposed to, let your mid tops do the rest, nothing will be strained unless you push it and the system will sound fine. if you want slightly more kick once the system is built, use your EQ to add it in.

They will not generate a "harder kick", they will just handle more watts within a smaller freq range


That's what I meant:

30-70: Super Scoops
70-160: HD215
160 Up: MT121

I was just saying that HD215 might be better at 70-90 range than scoops.
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Originally posted by Risc_Terilia Risc_Terilia wrote:

I've always thought of an HD as a pretty light box.



It's not the weight, it's the distribution of it and the opportunities for handle placement plus lack of castors. You end up hand balling a lot more than you really need to, and there's almost no benefits over doubles because you wouldn't really ever use them in singles.
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