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 Topic: drivers for 1850/186?Posted: 14 July 2012 at 4:26pm |
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quote from 1850 plan- "PD 1850 and other drivers with an EBP over 125 and BL's over 28. For drivers with EBP's around 110 or lower use the 186 horn." Green is somewhere in between. Brown have the high EBP, but the BL is less than 28.
XMAX/ BL / QES / QTS / VAS /FS / RMS/ EBP (18sound) 18LW2400 9.5 25.6 .32 .31 230 35 1200W 109.4 18W2000 7 27.1 .26 .25 230 37 1200W 142.3 18NLW9600 14 30 .29 .28 149 34 1800W 117.2 18W1000 7 24.7 .24 .23 268 35 1000W 145 18LW1250 9 23.6 .28 .27 268 35 1000W 134.6 18LW1400 9 24.7 .31 .29 297 31 1000W 100 18ND9300 9.5 24.4 .29 .28 316 30 1000W 103.4 B&C TBX100 9 25.5 .37 .35 212 34 1200W 91.8 B&C18PZB100 8 26 .25 .24 297 30 700W 120 B&C18NW100 9 28 .27 .26 252 31 1200W 114 B&C18SW115 14 30.3 .32 .3 187 32 1700W 100 Beyma18G550 9 24.4 .385 .37 210 36 900W 93 Beyma18P1000 8 26 .37 .36 245 32 1000W 86 Beyma18SW1600Nd 10 29 .34 .33 205 32 1600W 94 Beyma18G50 9 28.8 .334 .325 212 40 750W 119.7 Beyma18p1200ND 9.5 26.3 .35 .34 198 37 1200W 105.7 BMS18S430v2 8 23.5 .36 .34 262 31 1200W 86 BMS18N850v2 13 26.2 .36 .34 247 29.7 1200W 82.5 CelestionCF18VJD 9 30.54 .315 .305 164 33 1600W 104.7 Em Definimax4018 7.9 27 .36 .35 238 32 800W 88.8 Em Impero18C 8.13 16.1 .35 .34 317 31.5 1200W 90 Em Sigma 6.1 22.1 .3 .29 441 28 650W 93 Em OmegaproA&C 4.8 18.8 .32 .31 548 25 800W 78 FaitalPro18xl1600 13 28.1 .37 .36 195.5 32 1600W 86 FP18HP1040 9.5 24.5 .35 .34 196 38 1000W 108.5 FP18HP1060 12.45 24.8 .38 .37 175 35 1200W 92 FP18HP1020 9.5 28 .28 .27 207 35 1000W 125 FANEcol-1500 12.75 32.75 .26 .25 175 33.5 1500W 128.8 FANEcolPrimeXS 12 22.4 .404 .385 257 33 1200W 81.6 FaneCol18B600 7.2 25.25 .245 .236 354 29 600W 118.3 FaneCol18B800 7.2 25.25 .245 .236 354 32 800W 130.6 FANEcol18SB 8.25 24 .366 .346 199 36 1000W 98.3 FANEcol18XB 7.5 25.9 .358 .337 236 33 1000W 92 JBL 2242 9 23.7 .29 .29 283 35 800W 120 PD1850 11.25 31 .22 .21 249 30 800W 136 PD1851 12 31 .3 .29 182 34 1000W 113 PD186 9 22.94 .326 .312 353 27 700W 82.8 PD188 6 26.59 .289 .28 224 37 600W 139 PeaveyLOWMAX 8.25 25 .33 .32 295 33.5 1200W 101.5 RCFL18P300 7.8 23.5 .34 .33 226 33 1000W 97 RCF LF18X451 13.5 30.5 .29 .28 220 30 1800W 103 RCF LF18N401 8.8 27.8 .27 .26 257 32 1200W 118.5 RCF,LF18G400 9 24.2 .29 .27 360 28 1000W 96.6 RCF,LF18X400 9 24.2 .29 .27 360 28 1000W 96.6 RCF,L18p200-N 9.8 23.1 .32 .31 380 28 800W 87.5 RCF,LF18P400 9 24.2 .29 .27 360 28 1000W 96.6 TurbomaxB1000 12.5 24.56 .3951 .3694 238.44 30.7 1000W 77.7 Turbomax 1500M3 12.75 35.39 .218 .208 184.95 28.59 1500W 131.1 Turbomax 1800 14.1 34.03 .201 .1944 233.57 25.43 1800W 126.5 VOID 10.5 34.8 .22 .22 201 34 1000W 154.5 I just modded the list of scoop compatible drivers- http://forum.speakerplans.com/topic65235_post674154.html#674154 and worked out the EBP's Does this seem accurate? Edited by RealitySound - 25 July 2012 at 3:44pm |
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RealitySound
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Posted: 14 July 2012 at 5:05pm |
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How high does the BL for the 186 cab have to be? (The 186 driver's BL is 22.94.)
How low can the EBP be for the 186 cab (before it starts to suck for the cab) (The 186's EBP is 82.) |
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RealitySound
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Posted: 14 July 2012 at 6:00pm |
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Surely the VAS parameters must have some impact of the cabs performance. What is a good VAS to have for the 186 cab? Approx?
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Posted: 25 July 2012 at 11:01am |
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have you looked at the pd 188 ebp of 133.6 and bl of 26.59?? i am wondering how they would perform in 1850/186 cab??
there is probably a good reason (which i havent herd about!!) as to why they are not mentioned?? but they are cheeper than the 186 and seem better suited to the horn on paper anyway???
i know they 100w less than 186 but would think bout 800w in each bin would still have good effect!! any thoughts??
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Posted: 25 July 2012 at 11:40am |
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yeah sure, horn resp says it would work, has a nice curve, stays within xmax. sorry i cant post the horn resp screens atm. but yeah looks good, should sound good!
ps. great work reality sound cheers Edited by Keen - 25 July 2012 at 11:41am |
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Posted: 25 July 2012 at 6:03pm |
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@Teeboy, added PD 188
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Posted: 25 July 2012 at 7:26pm |
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great work on compiling this chart mate.
 have you had any experience with any of these drivers in the 186 ??
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Posted: 26 July 2012 at 2:41am |
Not yet. I do have all intentions of building some in the near future mind you. I also do have quite a bit of drivers to compare in them. Of course I will share my findings. Hoping to try modding the cab a bit too.
Edited by RealitySound - 26 July 2012 at 2:42am |
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Posted: 26 July 2012 at 9:07am |
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sounds good mate, you'll have to keep us posted on how it go's.
think i decided to go for the pd 186 in mine now, purely because some people ill be putting in with got 186 in their bins, so it'll all match up when it used together, and none of the drivers will work against one another. if it wasn't for that probably would have looked for a second hand pd188 to try in one!!
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Posted: 25 October 2012 at 10:59pm |
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So I am planning to build some 186s with Faital Pro W18N8-1000s. The BL is just shy of 28, at 27.6, but it seems that when I simulate in Hornresp, that the driver will behave almost identically in either the 1850 or 186 horn. Seems like there is xmax trouble at about 550watts, unless I up the compression ratio (cut a smaller baffle hole) to about 3:1, and then I lose some low extension but can push with 850 watts, and get more than 140dbs with four. Any thoughts?
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Posted: 20 March 2013 at 2:18pm |
What is this magic ?!? but seriously whats the brand of this driver? ld like to find out :)
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Posted: 20 March 2013 at 2:29pm |
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http://www.bluearan.co.uk/index.php?id=VODV181000
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