empty wembley b-line 2820 cabnets

 

Sucks like a poor Bankock hore

 

session licking some serious dubplates made for strictly soundsystem uses enhanced bass for flappy chest pounding jaw rattling bass  when used with the correct amp and subs...i  brought them10 years back from my vast vinyl sellection consisting over 15,000 + records ...i was a fanatic collector visiting all the hi fi exchange shops carboot sales ,,charity shops looking for some lost gems lol,,,shame the sheberdsbush branch shut down that was my reguler.thats the way to put subwoofers to the real test....i rerember danny who had a small unit in southall liberty market now converted into a cinema after got burnt down he was another famous record seller ....i used the matrix xp3000h 8ohm mode which i think is the best way of using this renowned amp .they are fairly light and having 4 is equvalant to 2 brick 35kg prolines....plus bridge mode is not safe and recommended told by many of my friends like kuller who clashed the deciples a few months back at southall comunity center ...also has a radio station playing the best roots revivals killer raritys...bridged mode mess,s up the amp in long term shortning the life span...i would rather have another xp3000h 2 in total running them at 8ohms linked from the link points safe and simple...mash up 4 pd186,s  or 4 pd1850,s day and nite...i managed to grab 2 second hand scoops from a friend who attended the test.... they had previously been loaded with the awesome pd1850,s ..so i brought x2 pd1850 new from blue arron who have connections with eminence precission devices same firm now ,,and never run out of supplys..prices are decent compared to the normal 330 mark..got mines for 270 each with a bit of hustling lol ...I always buy my subwoofers new coz used you dont know the history and how they had been used by previous owner or owners and abused wacked out to peak with out protection and voice coil  rubbing ect...Well back to the test  i left the the pd1850 to a side as alot of members (mykey and champion) including my friends said the same they wont sound good in the 2820 ....we stuck the b-line 800 in which was the orignal sub intended for the 2820 so we heard what we exspected warm smooth acoustic bass flowing around rebounding everthing with out all the damaging bass you get from the scoops....not flappy at all i liked that sound very impressed....2nd was the old mk1 b-line 500 wow what a awesome sounding subwoofer for a 500watter and age ..surprised at how much power it was soaking and still asking for more...personel comments sweet enhanced bass very very  super smooth lovely sounding subwoofer...3rd pd186  what a transformation rocked everthing like crazy  went very very low as exspected from pd drivers nice sounding for me but not the neighbours and people living in the council flats beside lol ...that bass was actaully penetrating through the double cavaty walls of the garage rocking what ever came in the way of the b line ...ok impressive ....then the p.audio 650 a very flappy driver which suited the internal design dynamics of the 2820 very well ..sounded almost as we where running it with a barracuda  amp lovvely valvy bass line ..remined me of when jah shaka use to have his brutal valve amp warming up and glowing like a lamp when the lights where shut off then the bass got heavier as the valves began to warm up more and more awesome .....but the cons where not able to keep up with the over engineered xp3000h well being 650watts what would you exspect...another fact was the old b-line 500 was soaking more wattage ....maybe the 500 bline was better suited to the guts of the 2820 i,ll leave that to the pro,s to answer..from what i heard and aknowledged acording to my own personel prefrences and love for bass i set my heart on the b-line 800,s ....will be getting my self another xp3000h soon linking them for 8ohm out puts..what a nice combination x2 2820,s loaded with b line 800,s and x2 scoops loaded with 1850s...champion you was right just choose what ever you like as its you who will be running your system not others..you like the bass from a certain driver then let it be.....as i said we all like our bass in diffrent ways...alot of people are seem to be selling there matrix strs and opting for the xp3000h versions ..might be somthing to do with the mosphets,,the new xps use hitachi mosfets if i can rerember correctly which are said to be more robust and better quality ...well from the way the xp3000h was wacking its undistorted pure watts its probally true ,,aint never heard a 3000 watt amp push so much power before..keeping in mind in 8ohm mode....i,ll be doing a 4ohm test on the xp3000h as soon as i order my b-line 800,s from wembleyloudspeakers,,hand built to perfection just like the pd,s ..but the pd is another breed a hybrid and has a proven track record be top  for many years ..lets see how long the new v-1200 can last in terms of long term performance and ability to withstand spanking as good as the pd... quality and workmanship ie materials used  ....i was told the v-1200 is made out side the uk  in another another european country  ,,maybe thats the reason for it being at a cheaper price...who knows..time will tell..precission devices are made in the uk and been renowned tryed and tested for many years they have there reputation and still used by alot of sound men..the pd1850 oozes with quality and projects durability and power....i saw some pictures of the new v- 1200 didnt look beefy enough and robust..power handing is only a figure what matters in my opinion is will it provide  years of trouble free quality  service like the pd delivers....i called a few shops like proaudioparts.co.uk stockist of the v-1000 and v-1200 and was very tempted from the price 250.....but i chose the proven and tested pd1850 ok slightly exspensive and less powerd but i have a peace of mind its been around and thrashed very difficult to cook still the most populer driver brought for reggae roots sound systems around the world.exported to all over the world..but exspensive to recone then most speakers ....is that due to the quality of the replacement parts? or just another way of making money coz it being a pd?Again this was my own persoel experement and what i,ve exspressed is solely my conclusion thanks again to all the members for the tips and advice bless....

Hmmm!

 

bill-77 wrote: 2nd was the old mk1 b-line 500 wow what a awesome sounding subwoofer for a 500watter and age ..surprised at how much power it was soaking and still asking for more...personel comments sweet enhanced bass very very  super smooth lovely sounding

Sounds like the old McKenzie 500watters - Larry (Mr Dubz) used to swear by them.

 

bill-77 wrote: alot of people are seem to be selling there matrix strs and opting for the xp3000h versions ..might be somthing to do with the mosphets,,the new xps use hitachi mosfets if i can rerember correctly which are said to be more robust and better quality ...

I didn't know that!!! Been reading about these amps for ages, but I thought the STR & XP were exactly the same other than the casing!!! Even more tempting.

 

bill-77 wrote: well from the way the xp3000h was wacking its undistorted pure watts its probally true ,,aint never heard a 3000 watt amp push so much power before..keeping in mind in 8ohm mode....i,ll be doing a 4ohm test on the xp3000h

Sounds very impressive. Bring that 4ohm test on.

 

bill-77 wrote: i saw some pictures of the new v- 1200 didnt look beefy enough and robust..

See one in real life then lift one up  then I think you'll change your mind!

 

NO! You mean they still ain't learnt a lesson yet from a few years back! That's how we got a dozen sent to us then. Ended up having to return half of them.

Maybe they got new picker/packer or a bit cheaper to send them in one box.

 

Good stuff - Sounds like extra protection then, can't complain about that, at least they weren't loose.  They promised it would never happen again & they'd always be securely packed. It's needed when travelling from very far distances!