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S7LNG
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Would the EV MTL-1 cabs sound similar to the px2181?
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smitske96
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The mtl-1 is a similar cab, so also not much under 50 Hz.
You have three options, and you can choose two: -size -output -low frequency extension It's kinda rough, but now you get the idea.
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S7LNG
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Are we thinking the reflex G-Sub cab? Forward facing drivers
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Conanski
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Yes
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mini-mad
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He just got told that a shared cavity reflex box is a bad idea and now we are recommending the g-sub?....
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If it sounds like a gorilla is trying to escape, turn it down.
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concept-10
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yep
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jammin75
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reflex drop low but if u want spl then u gonna need at least 3 doubles a side as already suggested here
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feel the vibes !!! "Who Feels it Knows it" Strong like Lion
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supremesoundz
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I suppose what some are saying is true (dual 18 shared cavity reflex box). Having said that many people still use G subs with success given its an old design now. Its fair to say that its probably one of the most well used free dual 18 plan ever.
I don't think the OP realises that the G sub is a shared cavity box so be gentle guys. Maybe he should have posted in the newbie section first.
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Conanski
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I understand the idea behind designing a dual reflex cab with separate chambers for each driver, but the reality is if you're driving the box hard enough to melt a driver then it's only production tolerances that will prevent one from dying before the other and the surviving driver will have been pushed to within seconds of failure and probably should be reconed anyway. And it is typical practice to power a 218 cab from a single amp which is sized to power both drivers so if one dies the survivor will then be generously over powered which it's not likely to survive. So bottom line is this really isn't a big deal unless you know you will be powering each driver discretely, then by all means build cabs with separate chambers to minimize damage in worst case situations.
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nickyburnell
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I love T18, you do not want them in today's world.. You want Reflex. Build single 18's based on the Fane plan or B&C Sub 18 and adjust ports accordingly to your drivers. The rest of the info, how etc. is well documented. Search WinISD, Bass Box Pro etc. They aint 100% accurate in any way but will get you close. Stop wanting fancy horn/rear facing driver cabs because they are cool, they aint going to give you the low end unless you build a 8 horns and put them together. Then the noise police will shut you down as all the bass will be at the police station, not on the dance floor. As a sub note to above post, the Indian wedding music quite probably had no sub, it's a different buzz (well it was anyhow, been a while).
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It's everything, not everythink!
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DMorison
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I agree about production tolerances being about the only difference between one driver dying and the second following it, but would qualify your comment about power. If an amp can produce the right amount of power for both drivers, then one driver dies, the impedance of the remaining driver will be higher than for the original pair, so it's not like the amp is going to give its full 4Ω power to an 8Ω driver. Of course, many amps produce more power at 8Ω than half the 4Ω value due to not being current limited at 8Ω so there will still be a slight increase in total power available. The real killer is that if one driver dies, the remaining driver is now in a cabinet effectively twice as big, which provides less physical damping of cone excursion. But you knew that part already, I'm sure. Cheers, David.
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concept-10
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This
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