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Disco Stu
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Topic: V-plating 1850s or 186s for free dBsPosted: 02 May 2008 at 12:21am |
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Hi guys just a heads up to you guys that are using 1850 or 186 Horns
Over on the Bill fitzmaurice forum there is the concept of V-plating Here is what it looks like with BFM Titans that are very similar in size and shape to 1850s
There has finally been a proper SPL test of how well this works and the results were as follows Sine wave at 60Hz, Cabs placed on concrete driveway. +4dB with the coupler It seems that at 80Hz and up the coupler does not have as much of an effect, but put it this way, if you only have space to haul 2 cabs around, V-coupling them is likely to give you at least 3dB at 60Hz and below which may give you more sub and a warmer sounding low end. I cant begin to estimate what it would do for a stack of 6 but for all you sub lovers there's only one way to find out. If anyone does do this please post results and tell us how well it works. Stu Edited by Disco Stu - 02 May 2008 at 12:24am |
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Posted: 02 May 2008 at 3:24am |
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Would it be recommended to put a couple between every pair of boxes if you stacked vertically with this?
I could theoretically give this a go with our Looneys, if I can find some wood lying about. Not too sure how well it'd do regards to stopping people who already use bassbins as shelving for their drinks though. Bar perhaps shaking them back out again. |
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Posted: 02 May 2008 at 7:13am |
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interessant solution...
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Posted: 02 May 2008 at 7:23am |
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they were doing something similar in cinemas for many years
if you were to keep stacking you wouldn't need that partition
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Posted: 02 May 2008 at 11:04am |
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I think the limit to Fc of the horn with 1850s/186s is achieved with 4 boxes.
However not only does the coupler increase the effective mouth size but also puts another bit on the length of the horn, which should in effect achieve a slightly lower Fc. So whether you use more cabs or not you might find an improvement in extension over straight stacking @Toasty I think the recommendation is to just have the cabs stacked up with the coupler at the top, does it matter if its one large cavity or several smaller cavities? I doubt it. Stu |
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Posted: 02 May 2008 at 11:12am |
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Well it should keep the mouths of the horns away from the public, they would have to reach in to put their drinks there. Why not build a 20 pc. cup/bottle holder into the top, to try and prevent spilled drinks. Stu |
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Posted: 02 May 2008 at 2:51pm |
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That might not be such a silly idea
I might give it a go if it only needs one then, to get the Looney stack's very bottom end up to the savage volume of the 50Hz and up. |
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Posted: 02 May 2008 at 3:02pm |
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You can EQ in the low end on them once you have a large enough total mouth area too.
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Posted: 02 May 2008 at 3:51pm |
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Heres an image from the BFM site of a chart of V-coupled Tubas vs stacked. The scale is rather too small for my liking but you get the idea. Stu Edited by Disco Stu - 02 May 2008 at 3:53pm |
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Posted: 04 May 2008 at 5:10pm |
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can you imagine what it would be like if you stacked 6 looneys 3 high and stood under that "coupler"!
i think to keep people from hiding inside your bins it would be worth puting one between each set but it is alot of extra wood to take on a gig, a small price to pay so you dont have to pull crumpled up crustys out of the stack at the end tho
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Posted: 04 May 2008 at 5:11pm |
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what about straping that arangement??? how you guna do that
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Posted: 04 May 2008 at 6:03pm |
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I might be interested in trying this with the wsx, might be quite good if done well???
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