x12 help

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   hi
i have build 4 b&c 15'' subs and am thinking to build 2 x12's for the mid/high section.
what i wanted to know is if there are other brands of drivers and horns that i can use
instead of the p.audio+selenium. the reason is that i cant find a shop online that will
send them here in cyprus.
also wanted to know if anyone knows a shop that can sell online the selenium hl 14-50 horn.
thank you

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vragas Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Registered User Joined: 29 July 2007 Location: Cyprus Status: Offline Points: 150	Post Options Post Reply Quote vragas Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: x12 help Posted: 05 October 2008 at 7:48pm
	hi i have build 4 b&c 15'' subs and am thinking to build 2 x12's for the mid/high section. what i wanted to know is if there are other brands of drivers and horns that i can use instead of the p.audio+selenium. the reason is that i cant find a shop online that will send them here in cyprus. also wanted to know if anyone knows a shop that can sell online the selenium hl 14-50 horn. thank you

ceharden Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List The 10,000 Points Club Joined: 05 June 2005 Location: Southampton Status: Offline Points: 11851	Post Options Post Reply Quote ceharden Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 05 October 2008 at 9:16pm
	What makes of drivers can you get? You could build them using B&C, 18Sound, Beyma. Most of the big manufacturers will sell suitable drivers. Just replace the horn with something you can get. I recommend something by 18Sound personally.

vragas Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Registered User Joined: 29 July 2007 Location: Cyprus Status: Offline Points: 150	Post Options Post Reply Quote vragas Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 05 October 2008 at 9:31pm
	well i can get products from thomann.de they do have B&C 12 PE 32, 12" Chassis, 250 W RMS and de200 comp drv they also got EIGHTEENSOUND 12MB1000 but thats lots for me i would like to have abox with 2x 200 or 250 watts thanx for the help

ceharden Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List The 10,000 Points Club Joined: 05 June 2005 Location: Southampton Status: Offline Points: 11851	Post Options Post Reply Quote ceharden Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 05 October 2008 at 9:52pm
	They also have some some RCF drivers. One of those will probably be suitable but I haven't used any of them myself. If Thomann can actually get them, the PDN 12MH25 would be ideal as it's neodymium and lightweight too! I would recommend using a 1.4" or 2" driver as a 1" driver will find it very difficult to keep up with two 12" high efficiency midrange drivers. If you want to go down the 1" route I recommend building multiple single 12" + 1" boxes. The BMS 4554 coupled with the 18Sound XT1464 could be a potentially very nice setup. The 18Sound horn is very large so some redesign of the X12 baffle would be needed but well worth it. I use that horn in my X12's and it's superb.

vragas Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Registered User Joined: 29 July 2007 Location: Cyprus Status: Offline Points: 150	Post Options Post Reply Quote vragas Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 05 October 2008 at 10:19pm
	i will check the rcfs do you think the pd121 or pd122 would do the job? am new into this and really apreciate your help