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    Posted: 22 February 2012 at 4:57pm
Would be lighter, but would it sound better, same, lose clarity ?


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Depends on thickness and built quality really. Generally I'd say ply should have edge over ringing fiber glass.

Myself, if I would go as far as making moulds and all that trouble, I would not bother with MT121 shape. I would make throat smoother aswell expansion...
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next step will be... full round throat with phase plug, rectangular mouth
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote levyte357 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 February 2012 at 5:59pm
Phase bunged redesign is not financially feasible.

Very happy with existing MT121 sound.

Looking from standpoint of fabrication time, weight reduction, total manufacture cost.

Originally posted by pfly pfly wrote:

Depends on thickness and built quality really. Generally I'd say ply should have edge over ringing fiber glass.


Have heard quite few fibre glass horns (not only Turbo/FK1), that also sound very good.


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Well the point is that you anyway need to build the mould to the horn, you might as well refine the design, keep the throat area same, keep mouth area the same but make expansion bit smoother and make the throat round. Won't make much difference to the point you're actually making the fiber horns..
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no point in making expensive moulds and fiberglass horns for a diy cab that isnt perfect on its own.
Either diy mt121
or P*rnhorn/Limmer etc.

Phaseplug and redesign would be a must if i would be going the "pro" route!

Fabrication time of fiberglass horns is higher than gluing 4 pieces of wood in a box if all wooden parts get cut with cnc to plan to safe on labour

Weight reduction wont be much at all.

Doubt that total manufacturing costs would be any lower than a reasonable batch cncd cabs.


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Originally posted by bass*en*mass bass*en*mass wrote:



Doubt that total manufacturing costs would be any lower than a reasonable batch cncd cabs.



Well that idea went far...


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I think you can still loose the weight by making the outershell with 15mm ply and neo-drivers that would bring you down with about 10/15kg , so don´t start making plans for the funeral yetBig smile  
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Originally posted by Father-Francis Father-Francis wrote:

I think you can still loose the weight by making the outershell with 15mm ply and neo-drivers that would bring you down with about 10/15kg , so don´t start making plans for the funeral yetBig smile  


Was definitely gonna be 15mm std birch all round, but Neo drivers price are thru the roof at the moment.

 
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If you're going to go with standard MT121, not TDA version, don't forget my revised drawings Smile

Haven't neo prices come down a bit?
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Originally posted by pfly pfly wrote:

If you're going to go with standard MT121, not TDA version, don't forget my revised drawings Smile

Haven't neo prices come down a bit?


the last prices i got they had gone down , but thats from B&C don´t know who else have dropped price, i want to try your revised drawings when i get time in April , I´ve been looking for the alround handles but don´t seem to find them , anyone remember where  they are this what I mean , someone drew how they were done somewhere
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I will have such horns in offering in a month or so. Round throat, square mouth, smooth transition.
Now the million dollar question, what is a reasonable price for a horn like that?
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