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    Posted: 17 June 2020 at 4:16pm
I have been messing around with some old Wharfedale linton 3XP sealed boxes, with new drivers in, for some time as my office "studio" systems.

Isobarically loaded 2x8", original 4" mid, modified front plate Fountek NeoCD1.0, tri-amped off Quad 520C, DSP courtesy of a Sabine NAV4800.

Not bad, but wanted more. Finally finished them!

Piles of wood. Top, bottom, front, rear and both braces are 1" MDF.


First curve is prepped, pattern transferred to all other bits by router with bearing cutter.



Thirsty work. My patented beer/cider dust protector is available for royalty free use. Your Welcome.



Baffle layup, ready to recess drivers. Bass is Wharfedale 2065T, a simple 8" driver from there 2180/3180 install range. Cheap but I like them.



5" mid is a bit more up market, a Dynaudio 15W75 ( got two from buying a Audience120+ for £40 from the bay) HF is a modded front plate Fountek Neo CD1.0 1.5" ribbon.


Assembly: Biscuits, Titebond and lots of Brads. And Janets.





Mid Enclosure. The 15W75 (15w75_data.pdf) is a bit of a sod, 5" driver with a 3" voice coil! Very "square" basket, as apposed to the cone we may be used to. Easy Solution, to get some MDF circles from CarFi shops, to get depth, to mount its own backbox onto.





Sides were a basterd. 4.5mm hardboard, soaked both sides with a water spray, and left to soften slightly. Then glued and bradded to anything offering grip below, i.e braces front back top bottom 1" MDF. 3 layers more, each with shed loads of titebond evenly smothered by glue roller, over entire surface. The green layer was under floor insulation hardboard that I had kicking about, but seemed to bend and offer sound absorption Dampness of wood, helped draw PVA into them, and all went very solid.



Afer trimming with multi tool, sanding to 400 grit, ronseal white 1 part filler, more 400 grit, time to slap on the TuffCab, Pro no less. 2 layers with yellow foam roller, top coat with gloss foam roller.





M6 Threaded inserts on bottom, to attach to floor stands:


1 fully loaded, 2.5mm 2 core visible in other done back to single NL8. 2" fluffy stuff lined everything inside, and in mid box.


Done:


Just got to set up the DSP...
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Originally posted by MattStolton MattStolton wrote:

Thirsty work. My patented beer/cider dust protector is available for royalty free use. Your Welcome.




Sod the speakers... that's bloomin' genius! Why have I never thought of that before
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Originally posted by djeddie djeddie wrote:


Sod the speakers... that's bloomin' genius! Why have I never thought of that before


From what I have heard of your "problem", you would never leave a partially drunk can about the place. "Open, Straw, down-in-one Eddie" is your name on that other forum you hang about.

I think that is the lid from a tin of servisol, but other aerosols are available. Once drinking is complete, good to put errant screws and bolts in too, whilst disassembling/reassembling something.
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look fantastic, excellent work.

no Rockys though...

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good to see laminated curved sides and not that awful stacking construction that people do!
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like them Thumbs Up  
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Great work!
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Lovely job Matt. Hope they sound as good as they look. 
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They look very good.
Keep pushing on, things are gonna get better.
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Originally posted by snowflake snowflake wrote:

good to see laminated curved sides and not that awful stacking construction that people do!

I quite like some of the stacked stuff!

If you have a CNC, vey easy to be very accurate and repeatable, and then you can build in some wood-worker detail, like marquetry or similar multi-wood walls.

Equally, more laminations are more time for more thickness. Stacked is as quick to make a wall 4" thick, as much as 3/4" thick.

The glued laminations worked well, as I only used Titebond regular, so it is not waterproof (their going to sit either side of my office desk, nowhere near a field). Where the moisture applied to help the hardboard bend seeped into the wood, it also drew the glue into the wood better.

I have a glue bottle with a 2" roller on it, which made getting plenty of glue on, evenly, a doddle. Bradded the front edge on, then simply smoothed the damp wood over the braces, or previous layer, pinning as I went into anything 1" MDF. The dampness of the wood really helped to draw the glue through, as the water evaporated off leaving PVA drawn throughout. You had to be careful not to over wet the hardboard, as it made the brad's heads pass through too much, but a bit of experiment, and pressure change, kept that quite easy.

What did catch me out was the fecking Dynaudio 5" driver. It has a 3" voice coil, which is what gives it its unique look, and should be useful. However, it makes the driver like a cylinder with a mounting flange, rather than the truncated cones of any other driver's normal basket shape. Trying to fit that into a generic mid back bowl became awkward, as most back bowls are tapered, non parallel, walls, which fouled this basket, even with a 1" thick baffle.

Haven't had a chance to plug them in yet, but looking forward to them. Those cheap Wharfedale 8" drivers don't look like much, but offer silly nice sound, and went low enough in small sealed box to impress for hi-fi. At 2m, tri-amped, should knock your socks off!

Next time though, I think I will stick to traditional box shape. Curved is better, but such a ball ache!
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Originally posted by MattStolton MattStolton wrote:

Originally posted by snowflake snowflake wrote:

good to see laminated curved sides and not that awful stacking construction that people do!

I quite like some of the stacked stuff!

If you have a CNC, vey easy to be very accurate and repeatable, and then you can build in some wood-worker detail, like marquetry or similar multi-wood walls.



I just can't stand to see all that sawdust and offcuts going to waste.
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Originally posted by MattStolton MattStolton wrote:

  "Open, Straw, down-in-one Eddie" is your name on that other forum you hang about.


Actually, it's Daphne on that forum. LOL
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