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    Posted: 28 July 2005 at 11:21pm

Hi everyone , i have just about finished making a pair of super scoopers, a bit of a challenge to make but well worth it, i used a pair of P.Audio E18-400S 18" drivers and some panasonic horns

i'm impressed with the spl produced by this design

 

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote mans1000 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 July 2005 at 8:41am

Good to hear a few more scoops have entered the world!(got 4 myself)

However,the P.Audio E18-400S 18 is only rated at 350wrms.The scoops can handle much more power than that.If u can upgrade ur drivers,u think ur impressed now,wait till u hear them with 1000+rms being pumped into em' . anyway,well done on the building of em'!

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote STRINGA Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 31 July 2005 at 6:41pm

Thanks for letting me know, i would love to upgrade at some stage to bigger drivers, but at this stage i'm a bit limited by funds, i bought the drivers on sale for $200 each, and bought an amp for around $350

but still if you can make these boxes yourself you can save a bit of cash hey

do you have horns in yours as well  ??

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Originally posted by STRINGA STRINGA wrote:

do you have horns in yours as well  ??

Not quite sure what u mean by that please specify,cheers

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I have added a seperate section in the top of the boxes for a compression driver and horn flare

this is completely seperate from the rest of the box workings

give me your e-mail and i'll send you a picture

they sound nice

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Originally posted by STRINGA STRINGA wrote:

I have added a seperate section in the top of the boxes for a compression driver and horn flare


So ....... where does the midrange come from ............. ???
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The 18" obviously......

 

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Originally posted by STRINGA STRINGA wrote:

I have added a seperate section in the top of the boxes for a compression driver and horn flare

this is completely seperate from the rest of the box workings

give me your e-mail and i'll send you a picture

they sound nice

O.K.......Nothing else in the scoops apart from Bass.I usually run a 2 or 3-way system using seperate mid/tops.

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Using a tweeter in the scoop bin is a bad idea.Because the thumping bass will totally cover up the high frequencies.

I'd say use scoops for bass, 12 inch front loaded horns for mids, and a few 8 inch mids for upper mids , and dynamic bullet tweeters for highs.All in seperate boxes making it 4 way.

If you decide to get better drivers for the scoops go for FANE colossus 18XB[ the classic driver used in scoops].

 

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote STRINGA Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03 August 2005 at 12:07am

Thanks for the advice, i'm fairly new at the speaker building , so any advice is good advice, i have the tweeters seperated from the bass, and it does sound very good compared to my old home hifi

a couple of my close freinds have aslo built simmilar designs with 15" drivers and i had to that one step further and build the 18"s

i have a hard time not turning them on every chance i get

 

 

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If you decide to get better drivers for the scoops go for FANE colossus 18XB[ the classic driver used in scoops].

I would second this-i had 4 scoops with fane colosus 18xb- and they were monsters!! easily take 1000rms in each side and definetly produce the goods!!

If your on a tite bidget try ther celestion frontline 18's 600rms-these can also take good power, work well in scoops and are relatively cheap compared to pd's etc

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I am very much excited by the posted results of scoop.

Has anyone build 12" versions, if so please mention how does it sound, and which drivers been used.

I wanna build it for small indoor parties.

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