18’’super scooper VS. 1850 horn

greetings to all,

after reading the FAQ I still have a doubt on which is best.

We want to build a 4 basscabs plus 2xmid/hi's soundsystem to play Reggae. 

The 3 options for bass:

1- 4x1850 horn (if possible loaded with void)

2- 4x18 super scooper (can we use void in these?)

3- 2x1850horn and some G Sub's???

Are these the most useable combinations or can you suggest me a better one?

We want to build something useable in and outdoor hence my doubt since Rog says that 1850 horn may sound strange if you use them in small venues.

Since most Reggae/Dub soundsystem I've seen work with scoopers I'd be more inclined for it but I'd like to know if there are other ways to reach a chest thumping/deep bass configuration around 4k.

thank you!

Thank you very much for the reply Rog!

You are helping us to start the construction of the very first independently built soundsystem in Portugal! I know we're kinda late but better later than never.

So going for the scoopers is the best in this case... 

I still have a tiny doubt about this: Will some Dancehall tunes(with harder kicks) sound good on this system? If not can we make it up by adding any other type of upper bass cab?

For the tech spec:

1-Can we load them with the Void's 1k or should we stick to the PD1850?

2-What power amp should we get to go along the 4 speakers. Is it better to operate the bass mono or stereo? Doesn't this matter on how powerful your amp has to be?

Greetings and thank you once again!

I'd heard of the infinite8 and it seems to be at a very good price! My question with the bass amp is:

-Would I use it in bridge mode if i wanted to drive the 4 speakers? I could still use it in stereo since a lot of power would be available, right? And what if I upgrade from 4 to 6 speakers, would it still make it(mono/stereo)?

My other question is on the Mid/Hi's section. I've seen the MT's on the site but I think they are kinda hard to build( don't know if the scoops are easier...) and most of all they seem to be pretty heavy.

-What is the power/features needed to compliment the bins?Could I build some X15 or even X12? How many would I need?

-Also, I'd like to have something wich is practical to take and play without the bins. In this case (ie, no bins), would the X15's perform?

thanks

Hi Rog,

thanks for the tips on the bass!

will I need to build 2 X15's for each bassbin? Won't I end up with too many of these speakers, 8 in this case?

Is there any other alternative you might suggest?

We are getting ready to buy the wood and start working on the bins!

I am going for that as a start.

Now, will I be able to amplify the 4 with an amp that gives 2x800 @2ohm? How do I hook each pair so that I get and impedance of 2ohm. If I simply put each 2 in pararell, won't I get a pair which is 4ohm?

Would I be better off doing this and getting a third amp for the hi's or trying to get a bigger amp and run the X15's (mid and hi)  on that, making use of the internal crossover?? 

Thanks

I was talking about the X15's and what I was unsure about was if each one had 4ohm or 8ohm to start with. Since I plan to build 2x2cabs I would really need each pair to be at 2ohm so I could use this amp I've seen (2x800 @2ohm).

So, how's a X15 rated, 8 or 4 ohms, or anything else?

The amp in question is a QSC-PLX1602 2nd hand from the store at 650€. If I'm giving each X15 aprox.400W is this enough to have them running at full power or I'd be better off with another amp? My options would probably go for Behringer EP2500 (2x1200@2ohm). I've seen what Rog wrote about them but would risk it since its for mid's and they're cheap. As for the bass, prob Infinite8...

Peace,

Silworm