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    Posted: 08 February 2006 at 6:48am

hello I will build 2 clone of wsx but in France one does not find the HP void which other HP can one uses ?

the bc tbx? 

thank you for your answer



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The original Martin Audio driver is said to be RCF L18P300
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thank you
but the rcf is only 600w
the bc is 1000w rms

I made a simulation with hornresp for the tbx

i got 136 db @50hz for 2 bins  with 1k per bins

but the diaphragm displacment is 18 mm max for 1kw at 40 hz

http://site.rezoweb.com/clan/karnage/photos/0/2511.html

displacement indicates by hornresp and it in + - or only in +?
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wahey!! you have a picture of mine and a friend's sound system on your site!



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I am really hapy with speaking with the owner about this exelent sond which case uses you for the sub and with which power
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For bass this system had 4 1840 horns all loaded with PD1850 drivers, run off a void infinite 8 amplifier. There were 4 HD15 horns on top of them run from 2 bridged void infinite 4 amps. The mid was from two martin phillishaves run froma c-audio RA4001 and two porn-horns loaded with p-audio drivers. Top was two porn-horn tops and a radial B&C loaded 1.4inch.

We were pleased with the sound we got at that party, at night when nobody could see the size of the stack we had more people dancing than almost all the rigs 10 times as big. We're putting some photos up on our website soon.

We've got almost twice as much system now so look out for us at the teks next year.


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horn resp is showing excursion at +  - 19mm (both ways)

the tbx1000 drivers xmax is 9mm

you will need a lr 24db hp filter around 40-45hz to stop damaging your driver

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B&C sub drivers tend not to be the best choice for horns.  Their drivers are more optimised for reflex and bandpass use.  From a quick glance the PS76 or PZB100 would be better than the TBX100.

The RCF may be a good choice, especially if it is the driver Martin used. The 600W rating compared to the 1000W of the B&C is unlikely to be a problem unless you intend running much more than 1kW/cab.

Other than that Precision Devices make some of the best drivers for horn loading.  The PD1850 has got to be an option for the WSX.

Don't quote me on this but I believe that hornresp can overestimate the excursion, especially compared with real program material (ie music).  You're not often going to be running a 1kW sine wave at 40Hz.

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Originally posted by biotec biotec wrote:

wahey!! you have a picture of mine and a friend's sound system on your site!good party!


NoUS voILA chEZ NoS AmiS LEs AnGLAIs !VraiMENT du BOn SON !

Seems they like it!

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Mostly harmless.... except if catering is shut.

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Void V18-1000 is also fine for WSX horns.

 

 



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Toxic, the whole point of this thread is that the V18-1000 is not available to him and he's asking for alternatives!!!

Wakey wakey! Put the spl*ff down and pay attention. 
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just finish 4 wsxs loaded with rcf s800 sound lovey stinking bass
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