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    Posted: 28 May 2013 at 12:41pm

I know there are plenty of forums for those of us who think Norm' Abrahams is God. However, I am on this site, so I thought I would waste your time showing off my completely un-speaker related making of sawdust.

Part 1: The Set-up

Part 2: Jenga (128 off the sodding things)

 

Part 3: Trial Fit - Jenga bits get put into two rails, each with a dado cut in (just passed through the saw repeatedly, my saw blade has 3.4mm kerf, so you can guess how many passes....

Basically I got £100 of C16 70x45 stud work, and turned it into fire wood and rabbit hutch linings...

Part 4: This is where it gets clever, by leaving a jenga block over hangin its supporting rails by 20mm, you end up with a ready made shouldered tenon:

Part 5: Every good tenon, needs a mortice. Legs are tanelised 3"x3" by 1200mm deck posts, one post does 2 legs, but £10 each Cry

Part 6: Improvisation to solve problems:

How to keep dust, from routing, out of your beverage - cap off an aerosol

How to squeeze glue for jenga parts to rails, each rail 6' long, with a glue width of 45mm:

Both those ideas are patented, please contact me for license details.

Part 7: The Glue-up; White waterproof PVA for jenga to rails, but Gorilla glue for mortices. If I have made the mortices too deep, by a though or two, it expands to fill the gaps. To be honest, they were all a really good interference fit! But I would say that.....

The sharp eyed will have spotted that the two mortices actually "coincided", hence the glue bleed through. However, once glue had gone off, a quick chisel, and the second mortice was clear for its glue. Interlocking mortices, Norm would be proud....

Part 8: Bottom support

In the first one, I ran 2 more dados on the bottom rails, to take some stiles, to support the 12mm WBP ply base. On the second one, I just did a couple of simple pocket mortices, by hand!! Worked out quicker and more accurate with a chisel!

Part 9: Spray Shop:

2nd One, and I did eventually remember some drainage holes, and then to repaint them:

Wickes Shed stain, for those interested, White Spirit based, so penetrates nicely, and leaves a nice waxy finish, to repel rain.

Old and New, and you can see why I had to revise my 6 year old design:

Part 10: Lining

This was quite easy, got some PVC sheeting used as weed control/DPC below poured concrete slabs. Simply stapled into place.

I bought the leg end caps. They were a quid each, versus buying the router bit to do the same for about £40.

Part 11: The Money Shot

All in, for two, inc all wood, glue, staples, DPM and paint, change from £200. + labour Ouch

First One:

And the other one,

I think Tham15 next, worst case would probably make good troughs for potatoes.....

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Forgot the dust, mostly from routing:

Anyone got a rabbit hutch, if not I will take it to a mate, who is a mechanic, and uses it to mop up spills in his garage.

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That looks nicely made Matt,much better built (and better thicker timber) than the ones i have seen for sale in garden centres,should last a lot longer too. Thumbs Up
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That was my reason for the diy approach. Saw something similar, but smaller (mine are 6'x2'ish) for about 300 squids each!


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I like the clamp on the glue bottle, can I apply for licenced use?
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote njw Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28 May 2013 at 8:34pm
Originally posted by burningbush burningbush wrote:

I like the clamp on the glue bottle, can I apply for licenced use?
   
 
  I always use that trick when the glue is running out because I'm too tight to buy another bottle!LOL
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Originally posted by burningbush burningbush wrote:

I like the clamp on the glue bottle, can I apply for licenced use?

As its you, as long as it is not for financial gain! I just got really achey forearms from squeezing the fecking thing, and I had a clamp to hand....

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Nice work! How long did it take from start > finish?
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Very nice,that's exactly what I've had in mind to build for the garden, although costs a lot in wood like you said it's still far cheaper than what you can buy off the shelf
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Originally posted by dylan-penguinmedia dylan-penguinmedia wrote:

Nice work! How long did it take from start > finish?

An afternoon to create the two piles of jenga, and cut the 8 x 8' lengths into 6' and 2', with the grooves in for the first one, for the base support. Could of saved myself a shedload of time with a stacked dado head cutter, but they are dodgey as hell, and, IIRC, illegal in the UK.

Another couple of nights to do mortices in the first 4 legs of the 3"x3". At 20mm deep, 45mm wide, by around 395 long, that is a lot of wood to turn to routing dust. And of course, given the odd cold tin, and cancer stick, one can't rush these things....

The second one was much quicker, 3-4 nights fecking about. I also didn't do the base dado in the second one, just got my chisel out, to make simple halved joints for each bearer of the base, which actually was quicker and made a nicer fit onto the base supports in the second one.

And I got to use my tennoning jig thingy on my table saw. *Tim Allen, from "Tool Time", type laugh*

All in, not financially viable to sell them, labour cost wise, but for a poncy numpty like me (all the gear, no idea), good practice to get the feel of the wood, as it were. And, quite high on the whole "Wife Acceptance factor", so should get me some brownie points.

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Originally posted by godge godge wrote:

Very nice,that's exactly what I've had in mind to build for the garden, although costs a lot in wood like you said it's still far cheaper than what you can buy off the shelf

As I was building, I was thinking of cheaper ways. Instead of my lengths of "jenga" for walls, just use sheet material, ply or something. If you wanted some "detail", just skim a V groove router bit every 75mm along it.

If you only used 12/15mm ply, you could easily get away with 1" rails, and then 2"x2" legs. Much cheaper.

I wanted chunky, and that C16/CLS timber is cheap, but surprisingly durable, and nice to finish. It also is partially rounded off on the corners, so adds a little detail, to an otherwise plain side.

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I could show you some furniture ideas that I've done. There is a lot and I'll put them up only if someone wants me to.
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