Crimson Elektrik 510

is this for portable PA duty?

i ask as it looks like a small 40w amp that is powered by two 9v batteries

If it sounds like a gorilla is trying to escape, turn it down.

I had a Crimson pre-power amp system many years ago wonderful sounding kit think you'll find the power amp is 40 watts per channel into 8ohms. (proper watts)

some of the pre-amps were battery powered but the later pre-amps had a link wire that connected to the power amp (as did mine)

I used mine with a pair of Tannoy Lancaster's and I had to say the sound was superb.

They still sell for a fair bit these days you could expect anywhere up to 500 quid for a matched pair in good condition.

Edited by colint - 08 June 2013 at 5:33pm

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Hey folks! Thanks for that...

@mini-mad - It's just for my own home listening pleasure, and yes the 510 preamp takes 2 pp9 batteries (to minimize mains interference so I understand it...)

@kedwardsleisure - There's some stickers underneath the cases Preamp reads serial number 315/510 and power amp reads serial 131/520. On the pcb's there's no discernable numbers like the ones you mention... on the preamp pcb it reads 'crimson elekrik 31-15 (then a or b on the front/back of the board)' and the power amp says '35-01 (b or c - front/back of the boards)'...that's all I can see.

Not sure if any of that will help.

Yea I have seen in my search a few go for good prices on ebay...mine may need a bit of a paint job first tho but I don't think I could bring myself to sell it :)

Thanks again folks, I better go look up speaker wiring now, I've a bunch of variosu random speakers wired up to it probably in very inefficient and cringe worthy fashion for anyone who knows their stuff! I've read a combination of serial and parallel is preferable, but I know bog all about that kind of thing.

ok, cool! Cheers :)

So does that mean even 4 speakers of the same sort you wouldn't bother with either?

I was meaning 2 speakers on each channel, 4 in total. I just happened to have a bunch of speakers and thought it would be good to get some cheating surround on the go with speakers in each corner of the room, and maybe a set in another room too...that was my idea ...? :)

I found this the other day but some of the comments say he's got it rather wrong...I'm not sure. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysuBeGeQ2yM - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysuBeGeQ2yM

Edited by MrCat - 11 June 2013 at 3:25pm

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MrCat Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Registered User Joined: 07 June 2013 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 17	Post Options Post Reply Quote MrCat Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: Crimson Elektrik 510 Posted: 08 June 2013 at 12:08am
	Hey folks, this is a bit of a long shot, as I've googled it loads, but does anyone have any idea of the capabilities of a Crimson Elektrik 510 pre and power amp? It has been my trusted amp for years and always served me well, but I can find no info on it at all anywhere! Just bought a pair of old Ram speakers (I'm not sure what model or anything) today and it's sounding superb... But I remain eternally curious......

mini-mad Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Old Croc Joined: 13 July 2012 Location: london Status: Offline Points: 6861	Post Options Post Reply Quote mini-mad Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 08 June 2013 at 1:05pm
	is this for portable PA duty? i ask as it looks like a small 40w amp that is powered by two 9v batteries
	If it sounds like a gorilla is trying to escape, turn it down.

kedwardsleisure Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Old Croc Joined: 20 January 2009 Location: Staffordshire Status: Offline Points: 5157	Post Options Post Reply Quote kedwardsleisure Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 08 June 2013 at 1:29pm
	Ive got a crimson catalogue from 1979 and it doesnt have it listed, Is there a number on the amp pcbs? Crimson did kits as well as finished units, might help if we know what modules are fitted. The usual part numbering for crimson amp modules was (for example) 1708 which meant 170W into 8R and 1004 which would be 100W into 4R etc etc Edited by kedwardsleisure - 08 June 2013 at 1:29pm
	Kevin North Staffordshire

colint Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Old Croc Joined: 06 October 2007 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 5260	Post Options Post Reply Quote colint Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 08 June 2013 at 5:31pm
	I had a Crimson pre-power amp system many years ago wonderful sounding kit think you'll find the power amp is 40 watts per channel into 8ohms. (proper watts) some of the pre-amps were battery powered but the later pre-amps had a link wire that connected to the power amp (as did mine) I used mine with a pair of Tannoy Lancaster's and I had to say the sound was superb. They still sell for a fair bit these days you could expect anywhere up to 500 quid for a matched pair in good condition. Edited by colint - 08 June 2013 at 5:33pm
	Never criticise another man until you've walked a mile in his shoes. Once you have, call him what you like, you're a mile away and you've got his shoes!

jbl_man Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Moderator Group Joined: 12 January 2005 Location: London. Status: Offline Points: 11308	Post Options Post Reply Quote jbl_man Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 08 June 2013 at 6:10pm
	@ Kevin,i had one of the 1004's back in the day,to replace a blown (now there's a suprise ) ILP120Y,the Crimson was nicely made,and sounded lovely,made the ILP rubbish sound like something made by Amstrad. Actually,that is an insult,Amstrad were far more reliable than ILP.
	Be seeing you.

MrCat Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Registered User Joined: 07 June 2013 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 17	Post Options Post Reply Quote MrCat Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 11 June 2013 at 12:18pm
	Hey folks! Thanks for that... @mini-mad - It's just for my own home listening pleasure, and yes the 510 preamp takes 2 pp9 batteries (to minimize mains interference so I understand it...) @kedwardsleisure - There's some stickers underneath the cases Preamp reads serial number 315/510 and power amp reads serial 131/520. On the pcb's there's no discernable numbers like the ones you mention... on the preamp pcb it reads 'crimson elekrik 31-15 (then a or b on the front/back of the board)' and the power amp says '35-01 (b or c - front/back of the boards)'...that's all I can see. Not sure if any of that will help. Yea I have seen in my search a few go for good prices on ebay...mine may need a bit of a paint job first tho but I don't think I could bring myself to sell it :) Thanks again folks, I better go look up speaker wiring now, I've a bunch of variosu random speakers wired up to it probably in very inefficient and cringe worthy fashion for anyone who knows their stuff! I've read a combination of serial and parallel is preferable, but I know bog all about that kind of thing.

mini-mad Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Old Croc Joined: 13 July 2012 Location: london Status: Offline Points: 6861	Post Options Post Reply Quote mini-mad Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 11 June 2013 at 1:32pm
	you just need a nice high eff. floor standing speaker... just one per channel. hooking up a load of random speakers to one channel will sound funny and wont do your amp any favours either fella
	If it sounds like a gorilla is trying to escape, turn it down.

MrCat Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Registered User Joined: 07 June 2013 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 17	Post Options Post Reply Quote MrCat Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 11 June 2013 at 1:43pm
	ok, cool! Cheers :) So does that mean even 4 speakers of the same sort you wouldn't bother with either?

mini-mad Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Old Croc Joined: 13 July 2012 Location: london Status: Offline Points: 6861	Post Options Post Reply Quote mini-mad Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 11 June 2013 at 3:17pm
	4 speakers on the one channel of a 40w amp?.... if series parallel'd ok, but why would you want to? a nice two way (low- freq driver + high-freq driver) would do a fantastic job in a fairly large box ( to give a little extension to the lower end).
	If it sounds like a gorilla is trying to escape, turn it down.

MrCat Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Registered User Joined: 07 June 2013 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 17	Post Options Post Reply Quote MrCat Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 11 June 2013 at 3:22pm
	I was meaning 2 speakers on each channel, 4 in total. I just happened to have a bunch of speakers and thought it would be good to get some cheating surround on the go with speakers in each corner of the room, and maybe a set in another room too...that was my idea ...? :) I found this the other day but some of the comments say he's got it rather wrong...I'm not sure. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysuBeGeQ2yM - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysuBeGeQ2yM Edited by MrCat - 11 June 2013 at 3:25pm

mini-mad Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Old Croc Joined: 13 July 2012 Location: london Status: Offline Points: 6861	Post Options Post Reply Quote mini-mad Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 11 June 2013 at 3:51pm
	its a childish and crude way of describing it but it is correct. just make sure your connectiong all the + and - the correct way round for this type of connection.
	If it sounds like a gorilla is trying to escape, turn it down.

mini-mad Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Old Croc Joined: 13 July 2012 Location: london Status: Offline Points: 6861	Post Options Post Reply Quote mini-mad Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 11 June 2013 at 3:53pm

	If it sounds like a gorilla is trying to escape, turn it down.