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    Posted: 09 September 2012 at 3:36am
Freshers' Week at uni & I'm lighting Wednesday night's dance, got 3x Atomics at my disposal which I want to use but finding it hard to work out whether it's safe to use them all on high power without risking tripping the 63A breaker on the lighting distro, considering they'll be sharing it with other lights too (including a pair of 1.2kW scanners & umpteen 250-300W moving heads).

Martin website says maximum peak of 33A, typical maximum of 8A, the fuse is 20A slow blow & the plugs are 16A ceeform. So what the hell are they actually going to draw?! I want to hammer them pretty hard, but probably won't be using them as blinders much if at all.
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they are always on 16 when ive used them, never tripped a type b 16A breaker when using them so you'll be fine, why dont you test it first?
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allow 16A per unit and you should be ok, give it a test just to make sure!

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote cravings Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 September 2012 at 12:37pm
i've seen them trip 16A breakers on their fastest strobing. there was a thread specifically about this and these lights before.. search it up, can't remember what else was said.
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I've always run them on their own 16A breakers before & never managed to trip one, even when using the blinder feature. My concern is how many *other* lights I can run off the same distro without risking tripping the main 63A breaker. If I assume they might use all 16A, that'll only leave 15A which won't do the 15x or more 300W moving heads & 2x 1.2kW scanners I want to use. Suppose I can always move one of the Atomics to the auxiliary ceeform output on our dimmers which are on a different breaker.
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Depends on your 63A protection, if it is on a D-curve breaker, slam away, I've used a pair of atomics on a d-16A breaker over 2.5mm 16A cee-form cable and never had a prob, but be aware if you have a B-Curve 63A you could be in trouble, I'd say if the rest of  your rig amp-clamps under 45Amp and you have either HBC or d-curve 63A you can go full bore on the atomics.
 
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^^ What he said, and there is a big difference between the draw of a full blind and fast strobing.
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They have a "half power" mode which you could always switch to should you have issues.
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Originally posted by whitehousejamie whitehousejamie wrote:

They have a "half power" mode which you could always switch to should you have issues.
I refuse to use low power mode on principal ;D

They're actually set on low power atm because the guy who has been using them so far doesn't really know anything about circuit breakers or what a curve is & wants to play it safe (this is the guy who thinks that any more than 4x 300W moving heads on a single 16A breaker is risky). I intend to apply my limited knowledge & get them going full bore, even if it does mean splitting them between distros.

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I thought the 'low power' mode was the 16A mode already?
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Well I've never had a problem with them on high power mode when they each have their own 16A breaker, even blinding, but I don't know off-hand what curve these breakers are. It's an old Rubber Box Company 63A single phase to 18x 16A ceeform, so they're probably.... C curve? Dunno, will obviously find out in Wednesday.

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Checked tonight (thought I'd watch the comedy show for free on my way home ;) ) & the distro is a 63A D into all 16A D so all should be good :)
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