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    Posted: 22 January 2018 at 8:18pm
I also have three supers and love them. Had 2 in a venue with 2 hogs. Hogs cleaner, supers added something different, but supers better for reggae. Supers not loaded with best drivers, just humble xbs but still nice. I think the hogs had v18s. If my system played a variety of music,  I'd probably go for hogsEmbarrassed.
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Originally posted by luton_soundman luton_soundman wrote:

the bass below 90hz doesnt come from the driver though, it comes from the mouth which is facing the same as the supers only slightly shorter.


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Yes agree emmy scoop bad low note box

but be carefull with cone excursion, chamber ect but love the old emmy tho

had them too
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IIn my experience, Eminence wardrobe is a baaaad box. Occasionally you have to wire them outside the venue and point them threw windows as you can't get them in lol.
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Thanks guys, collectively you've painted a pretty good picture of the two. Seeing Lutons comment however makes me feel I should have added the eminence scoop to the list to compare.
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Originally posted by levyte357- levyte357- wrote:

One also has to remember, not all soundsystems using Scoops, know what they are doing.

So a poor Engineer, will make very nice sounding Scoops, sound crap.

If any sound system, using Scoops, has any kind of distortion, coming from the bass section, the Engineer is mediocre.

That's a pretty weak argument.

You of all people could have promoted scoops for everything they are worth but you chose to try to brush the mistakes under the carpet of scoops systems by saying that nonsense.

Come on lev, give us some solid reason why YOU prefer scoops and their merits
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the bass below 90hz doesnt come from the driver though, it comes from the mouth which is facing the same as the supers only slightly shorter.
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agree with king david and bass*en*mass...I've heard hogs loaded with 1850s and V18-1000s and both times thought they sounded lower and "cleaner"...but the super scoops just hit you inna different way...more force and spl above 40hz...proper chest hitting. proper reggae sound that you just don't get with other cabs and reggae.

I play mostly roots and dub through my hogs and still a big bad and heavy sound....really want to have a play with a pre amp through some hogs...think Adrian's Wall does? Jungle and dubstep absolutely flies through hogs....Electrikal sound can show you that!

I love my hogs every time I hear them, and I love super scoops every time I hear some! Horses for courses....


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Originally posted by SouthwestCNC SouthwestCNC wrote:

Can I get some opinions on the pros and cons of both the hog scoop vs super scoop and opinions on spl vs sound quality of the two. Much appreciated.


To save confusion do you mean for just Reggae or all genres?
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just build eminence wardrobe and scrap the other 2! 
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Would be better, if  a renowned Soundsystem that uses Traditional Scoops,  is compared with a Renowned system, that uses Hogs.
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