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Jony_850
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Posted: 31 January 2018 at 7:08am |
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Hello everyone.
I need advice on a subwoofer for our system. A couple of years ago, we started to create a sound system. In these years we have learned a lot and we have been realizing all the mistakes we have made and we want to redo it whole. Our ideas is to go to 4 ways, I know that it is easier the 3 ways, but we want to take advantage of some of the material we have. When we started we built 4 subs 48 of Billfiztmaurice equipped with eminence 3015lf, sound good but at low frequencies do not yield enough, I think the first mistake was to use a 15 for a sub and the second that we do not use plywood. This is our sound. We would like to substitute the titan 48 for another sub 18” (1 way) and use the 3015lf to make 2 box 2x15 bass reflex (2 way) and when we can replace the Das for other midtop and other hightop (3 and 4 way) We do not know which sub choose, SBH, Invaders, Th118, hog or 2x18 ... we see a lot but never hear. Some has spl charts bad is difficult compare. In faq section i read that scoops not is a good choice better folded horn... i was reading the forum a lot last week, but I dont know what to do We put reggae, dub, jungle, dnb, neuro, trance, tekno ... and we’ll but new drivers and amps. Any advice is good recibed. Edited by Jony_850 - 31 January 2018 at 7:17am |
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RiddimKid
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Scoops scoops scoops and more scoops lol
Loads of designs online, four superscoops from this forum would probably be good enough for what you need |
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levyte357-
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Yes. Would also sell the Eminence drivers, and get something better in your budget. Then you can be advised on best Scoops, for your drivers. |
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Jony_850
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Thanks for your answer But what about that? Super scoop is the best choice I always hear that is an old desing with many problems. |
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levyte357-
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I know too many Reggae Sound Systems, who started out with Folded Horns, got rid, now have Scoops.
For other Music, yep, Folded horns are great, but for Roots Reggae, they will never sound as good as Scoops, in 2-3x stacks of 4x, 38-80hz. Listen to people who go to Reggae dances regular, or own Scoops.. Edited by levyte357- - 31 January 2018 at 4:31pm |
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Jony_850
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The problem is we put other kind of music like tekno, psytrance, hardtek, dnb,neuro, tribe... aparte of reggae roots and dub. I like scoops but I’m worried about for other kind of music. |
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not sure lev I agree, in the past few years ive seen just as many sounds move from scoops to folded horns and traditional reflex designs. Any design cab play reggae, roots dub, what counts is can you tune your rig to get it to play in a way that your happy with. But based on your not getting what you want from your horns, then maybe scoops is the way to go.
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levyte357-
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I'm not saying Folded horns are never better than Scoops.. But I think it's an established fact, for gigs where DJs are playing, (NOT LIVE), most Folded Horns just don't do much below 50hz... I recently went to Reggae gig, where there were 2x stacks of 6x 21" Folded horns, powered by K20 per stack, and yes, everything in sight was being devastated by 55hz plus, but that is not a desirable way of listening to Roots Reggae. I've heard 2x stacks of 4x 1850horns/186Horns, SBH. Always the same as the above, struggle to do lower than 50hz. Meanwhile, 2x Stacks of 4x SteveBs, Fane Scoops, ASS, Wattco, effortless notes downto 40hz. |
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Jony_850
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I’agree with all of you, i hear a lot of dub and reggae sound system and sound powerfull down 40hz, but I think the sound lose details, with titan 48 the sound is clear but dont have power in low frecuencies, is true that they has 15 inch driver and it cant to move the air than 18 inch driver.
Folded like for clear, rear loaded or similar for loudest. What about for hog or danley th118? |
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Aman Gebru
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The best kind of sub for reggae and dub is the karlson slot, followed by reflexsluz.
Scoop is perfect for lazy sound boy who don't wanna have the headache of thinking about somethink different. |
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levyte357-
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Was long time thinking of making 21" version of Martin WSX, but when I heard 12 21" Folded horns, pretty much fail to hit below 50hz with SPL, I decided not to.
Some people happy with Folded Horns playing Reggae, but I can guarantee it's not the dub crowd, who absolutely, definitely want to hear 40hz with huge SPL, as opposed to 55hz. EDIT:Won't even mention the Dub Reflex crew, who want huge SPL, at 30hz!!! Edited by levyte357- - 01 February 2018 at 3:49pm |
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You can easily get below 50hz with a 21” FLH, it just has to be huge.
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