Has anyone heard an all valve rig e.g. Axis, S&P?

How 'Vintage' do you want your system? With respect, it seemsike it's only the look of the speakers. I don't know of any original sound that routinely played multi tracks on their system. Original systems had pre release records to play, displaying connections to.studios. sweeping frequency's is how a record gets vibes, don't have to be dangerous to system or ears. This is the operators forte. There is so much more than simply setting eq and letting tune run.

Edited by valve head777 - 26 February 2018 at 6:40pm

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Originally posted by Dub Specialist Sound

Dub Specialist Sound wrote:

Cool Roman,

Sorry for not putting any input into this thread, there so many question , msg, info ect

i find it a little overwelming man hope it makes sense Smile

My Quad Box is 5.5ft High, 4ft Width, 2ftt depth just under, so internal litres are around 1000/1200 taking into account rear of the drivers , some mega bracing in there too,

I have photos of your quad and Paul Axis's one. But I want to get out the tape measure and visualise how big it might end up. But my drivers have unique parameters that will dictate the design.

I hope me wanting big romantic quad cabinets doesn't prevent me from getting them into some venues.

Dub Specialist Sound wrote:

Weight not atm , but i will be weighing asap so will let you know, its heavy lol

all imho mixers just done do it for me, i use pre-amp JTS and not to be under estimated , serouis lows tubbs allways known for that,

Mixers don't do it for you. Your assertion is that for serious lows you need a reggae pre amp like a JTS.

Dub Specialist Sound wrote:

i think great all all sound, just like it does everthing in one unit , remmebr its whats hanging off the ends on amps pre amps, yu cant make a bad mid driver good with anyth8ing tbh, ok-ish yes but yu know what i mean

I'm not sure I do. Your grammar and spelling is unusual.

Something hanging off the amps. The pre amp perhaps?

You can't make a poor quality mid driver good with something?

Dub Specialist Sound wrote:

but also i have a vintage racks for the Quad , with Sage bass pre on it custom mosfet ab amps, unreal lows we talking low freq....

i still rate all reagge pre out there still,heards loads ect

Great thread ppl..love it!!!...little pic attached lol

So your speaker stack fits under a normal house ceiling. Actually that room looks quite tall. That has been a consideration of mine. Will my quad plus double 15 plus multi cell horn be too high for some spaces?

Beautiful rig you've made.

flinnt45 wrote:

Hi Valve head yes john is still about though he has an elderly relative whom he cares for so not sure how much he,s doing, certainly stopped doing transformers, his mate john wood was the person who advised re the 813 amp, he winds the transformres now, think he was involved in AXIS amp re the transformers, I use octal based sweep tubes my Fav is the 6lw6 familly.

Nice one

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Many good secrets being given away here. Alot of old school sound men wouldn't even contribute to a thread such as this. Anyone can do magic, they just need the spell.

Edited by valve head777 - 26 February 2018 at 7:05pm

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valve head777 wrote:

How 'Vintage' do you want your system? With respect, it seemsike it's only the look of the speakers.

What about the title of this thread? I don't know what your definition of 'Vintage' is. I like the idea that bass reflex cabs are more even frequency wise than scoops and go lower in frequency range. And will be suitable for a wider range of genres than just reggae. Or so I have read.

I'm using 80s JBL drivers. as listed many times. And as we are discussing, possibly valve amps. This isn't a purist recreation of a 60s reggae sound system. The guiding principle is pleasure. I would use valve amps in the hope that the sound is more pleasurable than solid state.

Many tunes are not released on vinyl. Modern and not so recent tunes. So if I don't play digital audio as well as vinyl I wouldn't be able to play a whole bunch of music I like.

I will be using a digital multitrack called an Alesis HD24XR just like Mad Prof does. Your right they didn't use them in 60s or 70s or 80s. That isn't going to stop me using it.

I do want to be able to have an all analogue signal path when playing vinyl. Digital conversions are destructive IMO.

valve head777 wrote:

I don't know of any original sound that routinely played multi tracks on their system. Original systems had pre release records to play, displaying connections to.studios. sweeping frequency's is how a record gets vibes, don't have to be dangerous to system or ears. This is the operators forte. There is so much more than simply setting eq and letting tune run.

They probably didn't have the option to take live multitrack tapes and studio equipment in the past.

Now of course things are more compact.

I assume you have been to a Mad Professor show. Even more flexibility than echoing the mid range of a song. Amazingly more flexible. Very entertaining.

There is another live dub performer called Victor Rice. He uses an 8 track reel to reel tape machine to play back the multitrack tapes. Very hipster as they would say.

Here he is:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TH66LSTRC8o

Roman wrote:

valve head777 wrote:

How 'Vintage' do you want your system? With respect, it seemsike it's only the look of the speakers.

What about the title of this thread? I don't know what your definition of 'Vintage' is. I like the idea that bass reflex cabs are more even frequency wise than scoops and go lower in frequency range. And will be suitable for a wider range of genres than just reggae. Or so I have read.

I'm using 80s JBL drivers. as listed many times. And as we are discussing, possibly valve amps. This isn't a purist recreation of a 60s reggae sound system. The guiding principle is pleasure. I would use valve amps in the hope that the sound is more pleasurable than solid state.

Many tunes are not released on vinyl. Modern and not so recent tunes. So if I don't play digital audio as well as vinyl I wouldn't be able to play a whole bunch of music I like.

I will be using a digital multitrack called an Alesis HD24XR just like Mad Prof does. Your right they didn't use them in 60s or 70s or 80s. That isn't going to stop me using it.

I do want to be able to have an all analogue signal path when playing vinyl. Digital conversions are destructive IMO.

valve head777 wrote:

I don't know of any original sound that routinely played multi tracks on their system. Original systems had pre release records to play, displaying connections to.studios. sweeping frequency's is how a record gets vibes, don't have to be dangerous to system or ears. This is the operators forte. There is so much more than simply setting eq and letting tune run.

They probably didn't have the option to take live multitrack tapes and studio equipment in the past.

Now of course things are more compact.

I assume you have been to a Mad Professor show. Even more flexibility than echoing the mid range of a song. Amazingly more flexible. Very entertaining.

There is another live dub performer called Victor Rice. He uses an 8 track reel to reel tape machine to play back the multitrack tapes. Very hipster as they would say.

Here he is:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TH66LSTRC8o

You do your thing mate, I'm an unapologetic traditionalist. For me Soundsystem has quite tight boudries.
No worries. Good luck to you.

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