Scoops for Turbomax 1500 M3? |
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Original shorty mini was great with certain drivers, and engineer with right talent. However, it could be even better with refinements. Heard a rumor, certain Asian builder, in Southall, West London, has accomplished this.. |
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Here that Lev
don't disagree on that man...I know heard nuffffffffffff scoops I self too |
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Indoors shorty mini with right driver, power, processing, will embarrass many full Scoops, in terms of SPL, notes. 4x in right venue, will cover 600 people, just like many full Scoops. Know this, as I've owned them, and engineered mate's system for 2x years, when he had them. Only real disadvantage is height of mid tops, with big crowds. There are plenty full Scoops that have neither the SPL, throw or notes of shorty mini !!!
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Taariffj
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The lev .44 scoop, is it suitable for the rcf lf18x451?
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levyte357-
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You know which drivers I'm into now.. Have 8x of them !! Just been offered 4x more!!! |
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I got a bookin in a few weeks, might take my 1500i midis and see how they get on
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levyte357-
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In Bristol, TweeterBox got the cabs to throw/Move air, but it was mostly 55hz+. As you know PDs in Shortman mini, effortless throw, even down to 35hz!!! |
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Lev, remember the big soundclash, mitchigan vibes, brendon and the third sound using 8 1500i. Remember how much of the hall they covered considering how HUGE that hall was? Considering the size of that hall the driver was definatly throwing
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I think scoops / horns are more prone to room acoustics and room effects. There will be more cancellation and areas where bass is minimal (compared to a SPL coming from the horn). Even the floor will act like a horn extension and will make things more complicated compared to reflex subs. So for small indoors, reflex / bandbass will do the best. Large spaces and outdoors, that's where horns will shine. Even Cubo 15 seems to have difficulties @ small indoors. [/QUOTE] Lost count of the times I've been in small clubs with f218 or other horn type stuff and thought FFS buy some reflex. Had 8x T18, then a load of Court W bins in a club years ago, bloke came in with his 2x15 reflex JBL's and it was like hi fi compared to our kit. Lesson learned that day. The Void things at Rogs party seemed to work though, although I was on the balcony... While we're at it, bloody 8" satellites in clubs with 18's on the bottom, Bleugh!! Never enough in the middle.
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I think scoops / horns are more prone to room acoustics and room effects. There will be more cancellation and areas where bass is minimal (compared to a SPL coming from the horn). Even the floor will act like a horn extension and will make things more complicated compared to reflex subs. So for small indoors, reflex / bandbass will do the best. Large spaces and outdoors, that's where horns will shine. Even Cubo 15 seems to have difficulties @ small indoors. |
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Well shortman wont have much throw tbh due to its design
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That is what I have experienced many, many times with lots of different cabs. T18 notorious for it, Martin 215, CV Folded horns even Cubo's. Seems the driver turns the scoop into something different, or just isn't suited for indoor scoops. Would be interesting in a 2x18 reflex for a laugh?
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