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carlosdelondres
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Posted: 07 January 2019 at 8:20pm |
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thanks very much, will have another fiddle and measure
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toastyghost
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If you’re using two LR24 for HF to mid, one of them will need a polarity flip as well as a touch of delay.
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Ok - LR24 should give the best phase response already. Try what I said and see what happens. |
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carlosdelondres
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Yep, all fully programmable in Sigma Studio. Crossovers are all LR 24, at 40, 135 and 5.5 in the plots with filters on above. Though the no filter mid and top plots are suspiciously similar to the filtered ones so I may have failed to disable them there. Reprogramming the DSP is a bit of a fiddle!
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Earplug
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Then it definitely looks like some phase/group delay issue around the crossover point. Try what I said and see if it makes any difference. Can you change the crossover points, etc. on the ADAU1701 you have? |
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carlosdelondres
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Hmm, I don't have a free space measurement, but did do some indoor near field measurements - this was at 2cm. No dip... *edit* with 1/12 smoothing...but even with 1/24 still no dip at 5.5kHz... Edited by carlosdelondres - 07 January 2019 at 12:48pm |
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It might seem counter intuitive but there's a chance you've got a diffraction issue by recessing the HF driver, or a reflection coming back off the protruding box sides for mounting the grill. Have you tried measuring the HF driver in free air?
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carlosdelondres
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Not tried that - I thought because the dip is there on the standalone plots, and there is less of a dip with the combined response, there must be summation through the crossover region, so polarity flip wouldn't help...? Will give it a try, though will have to wait til evenings are a bit lighter! Anything in the deisgn itself that stands out as potential cause of the issue would you say?
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Ok - a bit of a long-shot, but have you tried flipping the polarity of the tweeter? Might help. |
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carlosdelondres
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Cheers :) The mid tops are wedges so the're reasonably audible when at knee height. Subs are 2 midtops long and one high, so can be stacked a few ways... |
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carlosdelondres
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Thanks very much - the 200Hz peak is somewhat audible, but getting the mid tops to go lower isn't really possible. Central plenum needs to be shallower to push it higher, and the inner port lengthened to compensate (I think)...live and learn. The 5.5kHz drop off is more mysterious - the 3" drivers are monacor sph30x and the tweeter is a Dayton ND20, both should be farily flat through the range used. With the 3" I guess they might be at the uppper range in which they will couple, the tweeter, dunno - something to do with the baffle size/layout...? Just wanted to keep the frontal area low and the drivers as closely spaced as possible...
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I like this a lot, nice job.
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