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Young Croc Joined: 23 December 2018 Location: Denmark Status: Offline Points: 815 |
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Posted: 25 May 2019 at 6:10pm |
Hello guys.
Trying to decide what box i want to put some money into. I am in need of some new small fullrange boxes for just about everything they are used for.
Fun fairs, speak coverage at bicycle races and other outdoor events, conferences, small partys, weddings, jukebox rentals etc etc. You know the drill :) And i got two to choose from. EV SX300 ( i got amps and gear ready for it ) RCF ART 312a mk.4 I have been looking into pros and cons,but i cant decide now. I like the sound they both got, and SPL are plenty fine! EV got the name and pedigree behind it. RCF got onboard amp. EV got a Titanium dome and 1,25" coil. RCF got a Mylar dome and 1,5" coil. Woofer are both 12" and 2,5" coils. EV crossover at 1500hz. RCF at 1800hz. Anybody got some good arguments for one box instead of the other? |
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ceharden
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Neither box could really be described as 'full range' because they will both be massively lacking in the low end. Need to be used with some kind of bass cabinet to make a proper full range system.
For convenience I would probably go with the active RCF boxes. |
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I know this forum is the wrong place to call it a full range hahaha. My bad.
But full range to me, is a box that can be used on its own. That actually has a decent output around 50hz. A dedicated top box is something like Mt130. Absolutly No chance of LF output there :) Anyways.. RCF for convenience. Noted 🙂
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toastyghost
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You should easily be able to listen to or sub hire both of those options and make up your own mind. Simple numbers will never tell the whole story.
The RCF are dog ugly but sound better. Neither would be anywhere near my first choice. |
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I have allready done that :)
One time with EV and next gig was with RCF. And actually had both models out for the same gig last thursday, and switched between them a couple of times while playing music and speech thrue them. I really cant make up my mind. EV is crystal clear and pretty loud. Good punch. RCF got a better midrange, but punch is replaced with a bit more LF output. I run passive subs, so if i need more LF, it will be with a passive sub+amps. Regarding the looks, Agreed RCF art3 series are not so good on the eye. But a fullface grill helps a bit. And again, the looks.. Almost everybody knows the sx300. Its a easy box to do rentals with. Decisions decisions...
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jacethebase
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Personally I would be looking at Yamaha DXR12 or even the new DZR with Dante.
Maybe the QSC K2 Stuff.
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I dont like the Yamaha sound. And QSCs cost alot more.
They have been eliminated earlyer. |
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Self-powered speakers (almost) always fail prematurely due to heat/vibration/solder issues, etc, etc. Thus, I´d go for the EV´s - they should give you years of trouble free service. |
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Earplugs Are For Wimps!
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Thats a very good reason. Havent thought about that at all.
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Risc_Terilia
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If you haven't heard dxr12s then you should. They sound very similar to qsc but are cheaper and have a 7 year warranty.
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I dont like how Yamaha sounds. They didnt make me smile when i heard them. Art 312 and sx300 did and still do.
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As for powered vs passive, for general non war volume use powered is the way to go, it's just too damn convenient... you bring in the speaker put it on a stand and connect power and a source, done.
Edited by Conanski - 26 May 2019 at 3:23pm |
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