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    Posted: 11 July 2019 at 1:18am
Originally posted by gen0me gen0me wrote:

Does RITA download work for you?


Yes, you just need to make a free order for a code which you receive by email, and then you get a link sent along with that which has the download section on it. Use a translating browser like Chrome.
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No. It is a video transcoding device, a super old one at that. It is not connecting the camera directly to the computer via USB.

You’re really making this ridiculously more complicated than it needs to be. Just buy a Surface.
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If the video guy just plugged two cables and runned software that communicates camera through firewire without special setup it means it should work the same with a soundcard. By guess after plugging the toy just USB to desktop in Device Manager should show up FireWire port automatically..
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Originally posted by gen0me gen0me wrote:

Found this toy: Pinnacle Studio Moviebox Plus USB
And it appears that guy on the movie uses it just plug and play. Has anyone tried it? Works/crashes/latency? Will it provide power supply for a soundcard or is external power supply needed?

did you mean to post this in the same thread? 

The linked video that's coming up for me is for a capture card. Its a video recording device designed to let you record old home movies, old vhs tapes etc into your computer and digitise them. Not really anything to do with speaker measurement?

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Found this toy: Pinnacle Studio Moviebox Plus USB
And it appears that guy on the movie uses it just plug and play. Has anyone tried it? Works/crashes/latency? Will it provide power supply for a soundcard or is external power supply needed?


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I didnt know there is something like windows RT, but I saw second leaflet under battery cover("win RT") when seller was searching for charger input(front leaflet was "surface PRO"). So I went into computer properties, checked cpu and smelt something is wrong with the system. Then I searched on wiki - windows RTDead so luckly :)
"-It is fully convertable win 10.
-Wiki says its not"
...silence


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hey

yeah glad you knew the difference between windows RT and full windows 10, I know a few people that have been caught out by that! LOL

I think the thing is, as long as it's a full windows 10 tablet PC it'll be able to use any USB sound card you throw at it. 

Latency of the sound card itself isn't really an issue to worry about as it'll be constant on every measurement. The only delay that really needs to be taken into account is the signal delay between your reference signal and the measurement signal, and that'll be a function of any latency in the desk/speaker processor/amps, and then the physical distance from the speaker to the measurement mic. 

The tiny differences in preamps and chipsets are going to make very little difference to your measurements, all sound cards are gonna be nominally flat from 20-20k and will be fine for phase too. The choice of measurement mic and the speaker, the acoustics of the measurement environment etc are gonna have FAR more of an effect on your results than the difference between one sound card or another. 

Again, without wishing to labour the point, i think maybe you could make things a bit easier. 

If a tablet is the best format for you then a windows 10 one, a usb sound card, and a decent measurement mic will be more than enough to get you going and let you take decent, accurate FFT measurements. For the sound card motu, focusrite or even the behringer ones are fine unless your doing proper precision lab stuff, and for the mic the iSemcon 7150 is by far the best price to quality mic about, you need to spend a LOT more money, 3 or 4 times as much, before you'll start to see a difference.

Whether using REW, or the live sound measurement programs like Systune/Smaart/Satlive you'll get more than usable results, and it'll then be down to your knowledge and experience in first setting up the measurement conditions properly, and then interpreting them, that will make the difference. 

(As well as REW, there's also a free measurement program that is more in the style of Smaart etc called RITA. I've never used it, but it's recommended by Nathan Lively whos a pretty well known sound engineering podcast and blogger, so I'd assume it was worth a look if you wanted to start off cheaply before investing in one of the more expensive programs)


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Originally posted by gen0me gen0me wrote:

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Has this Dell came with relatively clean install? Any unnecessary soft added?


The DELL has an x64 Intel Core M-5Y10 CPU…. It’s full Windows 10 pro, just like on a standard x64 windows laptop/desktop.... 

The install seems stock with a complete lack of junk!!


Originally posted by gen0me gen0me wrote:

Today one guy tried to bullshit me with Windows RT...claiming convertability to win 10..


LOL .... Windows RT runs on ARM CPUs not Intel!


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I knew it would happen... after next day of digging I am not much closer to any choices.
Yesterday I was searching for audio interfaces. Im getting to the conclusion that I cant choose audio interface at all. Even if I could compare latency like on the previous webpage, still practically every description is a total bullshit. Practically every producer hides what A/D/A converters are used. If audio interfaces really convert 14 bits, it must be a miracle. Many producers even bullshit about 20 or more in/outs not mentioning it is through light SPDIF. Spdif doesnt even convert digi-analog....
Everything about interface I can find out from a rear + front photo. Thats it, end of lecture. Few pages of description says nothing.

Today one guy tried to bullshit me with Windows RT...claiming convertability to win 10... Other girl didnt know Win 10 exists on tablets. So enough for the experience in shops and money converters..

Has this Dell came with relatively clean install? Any unnecessary soft added?


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Any more options with win10 (tablets)?
Anyone tried to run FL on such? Are projects transferable to desktop? Do I require new version of FL or old one will do?

I found comparison of soundcard latencies:
A bit overcomplicated. Why some interfaces were checked through utility  some seems to not?
I must have been wrong about firewire vs usb 2.0. Above author conclusion is that the driver is the biggest variable. All In all USB shortest buffer cycle is 0.125ms(?) for 2 cycles 0.250ms (Input than output than Input again) So not comparable to latencies.
Do you know any interfaces on Burr-Browns/Texas Instruments?
7 out(mono) is minimum.
Motu is on the list. How does it sound? Have you compared it with other interfaces in terms of sound quality?
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